Should I get Acer Aspire 5739G?

Hello,

First off, I HATE ACER!

But I can get this 5739G really cheap, about 300 USD.

This model is with the nVidia GT 130M, 1GB. 4GB 1066 mhz DDR3 RAM, 15,6 LED Screen. and T6600.

Now, what matters here is the GPU. I have seen that 130M actually does it pretty good. I have a Quad core CPU which I'm planning to use, 8GB sticks and SSD drive. I have seen all the heat problems, that really does not matter. I have sucessfully fixed the heat problem on the HP DV5, able to overclock CPU and GPU and max out Black Ops.

I belive this is one of the 'better' models with HDMI and fingerprint reader etc. (?)

I would be greatefull to hear any thing about this model.

On paper, the GT 130M should actually do slighlty better then my 9600M GT. But, I wonder how it is at a whole.

My 9600M GT combained with 8GB 1066 Mhz DDR3 RAM, CPU running at 2.93Ghz, 6MB L2, 1066 is able to max out Black Ops and still get a playable framrate of about 20-25. - This combinanation, does better then DDR3 8GB, T9600, GT 320M.

So, in theory, Quad running at 2.40 Ghz, 8GB DDR8 1066 combined with GT 130M should do good, or what? And, exacly, how old is this model?

 

There must be some misunderstanding:

nVidia GT 130M is a 32 stream GPU that is slightly faster than nVidia GT 9600/9650. Roughly 5500 in 3DMark06

nVidia 9800M GT is 96 stream GPU that gets closer to 9500-10000 in 3DMark06.

In Crisis 9800M GT is twice as fast as GT 130M. See here and here for some benchmarks.

 

That was a typo. I were in a bit on-the-go when I created this therad. I ment 9 600M GT
Thanks for the correction. REP added.

 

I think the GT130 wont give you that much of a difference ... what may do so on the other hand is the "also" rebranded GT9600 ... the GT240 ... which comes with some variants of the 5739G ... so if it MXM compatible you can grab one of these really cheap & install it with no problems I guess because the majority of the 5739Gs come with

Or you can do what some other members did & go for the ATI HD4650 or HD4670 for some hardcore extra performance

Check out the MXM Thread you will find all the details you need

As for the machine ... if it was me I would get it with that cheap price and make it my own little project & as you said you have most of the upgrades ready ... all you need is to buy the new GPU

 

I don't like ATI. I had ATI back in days, and it caused some problems, after that nVidia and Intel all the way. I don't like AMD either.

But, also, keep in mind that my current 9600M GT has DDR2 memory, where I belive the GT 130M is DDR3, right?

And, yes, I do have most of the upgrades ready. Despite, I have sloved the problem with DV5 and overheating, I still highly dubt it will handle a Quad core CPU. Acer is also one of the few brands I not have ever usoed as my main laptop. I now feel like I want to give it a go. And, with that price.....

 

Well ... I have used both ATI & Nvidia & I can frankly tell you it is the same pros/cons on both sides give or take one thing or the other ... as for the HD4670 ... it is comparable to my HD5650 ... the GPU that I truly respect it is quite amazing good overclocker & amazing in heat emission I never got past 75c in a 30c room with bios overclock ... so I would give it a go if I were you ... but anyway still you will have a MXM laptop which will give you the option to upgrade on demand anytime you need ... so is it a good bargain ? I think it is a great bargain

 

Thanks for the suggestion. Also, have used this model? Or do you have any information about Acers? Can you confirm if this is the GT 130M is DDR3?

 

According to a service manual it's DDR2 @500MHz for GT 130M

 

EDIT: Downloads already sorted that one out

 

I didin' like that. Well, overclock memory like crazy then.

A quick replacement search on ebay confirmed DDR2. Not cool. Is there any upgrade option for this? nvidia? I know there is ATI now, as it have been said few posts above

 

I did found this, which looks like an option!

Nvidia GT 240M GT240M MXM Type A Acer 5739G 5935G 7738G | eBay

 

It's quite a very easy option as I mentioned earlier because no modding required at all ... you just put that thing in and apply some thermal paste for some extra temp headroom and bam you are ready to go ... no bios tinkering or anything

 

That would cost you almost $500 in total. It's getting close to a Core i3/5 and HD5650 notebook which will be significantly faster. I'm pretty sure that you would be able to buy a used one for that kind of money.
Does it still make sense?

 

Believe me it depends on where you live ... at least where I live with 500~650$ we are speaking integrated GPUs tops

 

You're right. I was thinking in terms of American prices...
Still worth comparing prices with used Core i3/5 and HD5650 ones.

 

Yep, sushi guy, you're right. Here in Norway, laptops, genarally speaking, everything is expensive. Say it this way HP ENVY with Intel Core i7, 4GB RAM and, 1 GB ATI Mobility Radeon HD5650 is 1 805 USD, new. Genrally speaking, there isin't much good choise between laptop in this country either. I'm therfore looking for a used laptop which I can upgrade. Not
even used. People here aren't intrested in selling old stuff. Even 8 years old have lapops these days. Say it this way, my nephew got his first laptop when he only was 3 years old. A brand new M11x, only because he love to watch Donald duck. He about after 3 months of use fell over it and broke the lid. I have it now connected to my TV and use it once a month with external keyboard.

Another thing is that I want a laptop so I can use my Quad core CPU which I bought several weeks back, for a quite good deal. But even my overclocked 9600M GT is strugling now. about 20 FPS Crysis, is, on the red line, if you get what I mean. And I'm pretty sure this thing will blow up if I swap the 35W Core 2 duo with a 45W Quad core.

Max tempratures are about high 80Cs under gaming.

This laptop, I mean the Acer, even is upgrade able to GTS 250M.

 

Then good luck with that purchase & always remember the community is here to help when needed

 

Well, I could maybe buy something off ebay, but I don't know if that is stupid and too risky.

Ugh, also, I like to do things, upgrade parts and have a lapop which is a bit special, in a way. I don't like stock things

 

same here ... but im stuck with soldered GPU :S

 

Not cool. However, I'll see what I do with this deal. If I get it, I'll also upgrade GPU to, possiblly GTS 250. DDR3

This will be my 4th - high end - laptop, I must start selling...

 

HD6770, no other real choice.

http://www.aliexpress.com/product-f...D6770M-1G-DDR5-MXM3-VGA-card-wholesalers.html

Smokes everything else in the MXM-A form factor.

 

HOLY SMOKES! ok now I want a 5739G

 

I know, MXM rocks eh?

This is the card we have waited for since getting our machines.

Left 4 dead 2 @ 1080p with 2xAA/4xAF getting around 80fps, Crysis warhead at gamer settings @ 1080p with 2xAA smooth, dirt 2 smooth at high 1080p.

 

I think I will try to get my hands on an Acer 7738G & start a project of my own

 

Ha, would need an HD5850 and do the MXM-B mod to own mine now.

 

lol actually having anything better than HD5650 will be fine by me

 

What is the screen size of 7738g? 17"?

 

17.3", it originally came with a 1600x900 screen.

 

Ah - Too bad. I need something, max 16". 15.6" led is perfect tbh.

 

The motherboard display connector on the 5739g looks suspiciously like the 8935g -> 8950g series, there is a chance you could get a dual LVDS cable for it and fit a 1080p panel.

 

I have a feeling that 1080p panel would be, a bit, too small for 15.6" ?

 

Small -> Nope I saw it on an XPS & it does just fine ... looks quite good actually ... but it will be highly demanding to play games on that resolution

 

Paired with a 6770M it's golden, plays crysis warhead with 2xAA 1080p at gamer settings when the mem is OCed a bit.

Plus its WAY better than 1366x768, you can always turn up the DPI.

Thats even leaving out the fact that 1080p screens tend to be brighter, with better contrast, colour reproduction and better viewing angles.

Do be aware however that I said chance, you would need to get a cable and make sure it works with your current display first, then you could actually buy a 1080p panel.

 

If I buy this laptop I'll also get the gts 250m, how is it compared with 6770m? 1080p panel is on very bottom of my todo-list..

 

Way slower. Even if it was equipped with GDDR5.

You would be better off going for even the HD5730 than that.

 

What about gt 240m?

 

GT 240M is even slower than that- it's slower than HD4650.

 

Your best bet is the HD4670 which someone already tried & it worked on that machine ... I know you are not a big ATI fan but believe me you won't be disappointed

 

I don't like ATI, as you said. I think ill do with the gts 250m or anything better I can find, nVidia.

 

The GTS250 is on bar or even a higher performer than the HD4670 ... so if you get that on a 1366x768 res screen you should be fine

 

I'll start off with the 1366x768. As I have this on one of my current 15.6" laptops I quite like it.

I'll see if I can find a better nVidia card then GTS250M.

Anything you know to start off with?

 

HD6770 has been tried and works in the 5739g

Right I have owned a GTS250M, its not a cool running chip, even in a 5935G, a system which seems to have better cooling than the 5739g.

Here is a stockish run of the 6770M:

http://3dmark.com/3dmv/3176515

Here is one of my highest GTS250M benchmarks:

http://3dmark.com/3dmv/2319422

That's WITH physX enabled.

The 6770M AT STOCK, is 50% faster than the GTS250M (with an unfair advantage) overclocked and running hot.

If you look at the GPU score its 3296 vs 5804 76% faster.

If you overclock both it gets ugly.

7107 for the 6770M.

2.15x faster. Sure go with Nvidia, but you will more than halve your performance to do so.

 

But it is still a ATI card?

Is GTS 250M tested, any information about that?

 

Did ATI kill your mother?

Yes the GTS250M is based on a castrated GT200 chip. It has no DX11, runs hot and in MXM cards is further hindered by only being paired with DDR3.

It's expensive and rubbish.

 

^.- ... aint 3200 3DVantage for the GPU a bit low for a GTS250 ? I thought it was on bar with my HD5650 which reaches 4kish overclocked ... is there something im missing ?

 

Yeah the 5650 is better.

GTS250 is on par with a 4650 DDR3.

 

Let's not overdo it- GTS250M & Core i5 520M score roughly the same as HD5650 & Core i5 430M- some P3500.
HD4650 with Core i5 430M score some P2800-2900 in Vantage (it might have been the rebadged one- HD 5165 but that doesn't change a thing).

GTS250M is at least comparable with HD5650.

 

Exactly what I thought ... I think it even surpasses the 450 memory clocked HD5650s

 

downloads sounds a bit more 'correct' from my side. Meaker, you did make it a bit ATI fanboy -ish

 

I just wanted to get across the difference in performance.

The first MXM-B card I tried was a GTX460M.

The GTS250M would not overclock much (heat) and therefore my 4650M outpaced it when ocing, yes at stock its on par with the 4670.