New Acer Aspire V Nitro series

Looks like Acer wants to participate in the gamer market with the new Aspire V Nitro laptops.

- Standard voltage Intel Core CPU
- Up to NVIDIA GTX 860M GDDR5 graphics
- 15"/17" IPS displays
- Backlit keyboard (red)

Source: Acer Unveils the Aspire V Nitro Notebook Series | techPowerUp

Interesting...

 

And again - SOLDERED on motherboard graphics?

 

Pictures of the 17" black edition (with optical drive). I'm not sure if the 15" version is also equipped with an optical drive (hope not).

Gamescom 2014: Neue Acer Aspire V Nitro Gaming-Notebooks und Black Edition offiziell vorgestellt







and http://www.hispazone.com/Noticia/70...ortatiles-multimedia-Acer-Aspire-V-Nitro.html







€ 899 for GT 840M, no thanks...

More pics http://www.eprice.com.tw/tech/talk/1184/4702028/1/

Source: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwi...-announces-new-aspire-v-nitro-series-laptops/
€ 899 for an 860M Black Edition? Well if that's true, this is some strong competition for the Lenovo Y50.

 

interesting ...

 

I'm wondering how Acer will stack up in terms of heat management, battery life, and display quality

 

If they use the same IPS screen as in V5 573G it will be GREAT, since the V5 573G has one of the best 15.6" FHD IPS screens on the market right now (AUO B156HAN01.1).
If they use the same battery as the V5 573G the battery runtime will be good for a gaming machine (V5 573G manages around 6hrs of wifi surfing).
If they use the same cooling as the V5 573G.... they will fail. It's stressed already with dual core i5/i7 and GTX850M. But noise is low, hope they can keep noise down and just make it more efficient.

It looks thin, which has proven to be a general failure for gaming machines. MSI GS60/70? Hot, loud and throttling. Aorus X7? Hot, loud and throttling. Gigabyte P34G/P35W? Hot, loud and throttling........ you get the point.

 

Can't wait for this thing to be on sale. A re-designed replacement for the V5~V7 lineups has long been overdue.

I'm liking what I see here. Sleek and professional looking machines that you can game in the hotel room at night after taking this to the meeting room in the office during the day.

In terms of design alone, IMO they have already blown away the likes of other slim gaming laptops like Y50, GS60, P34G v2 and P35W v2. I'm not mentioning the Blade because it is too expensive.

Only one USB 3.0 port in the V7. Now it looks like there will be 3!

Hope there will be a review soon so that we know how it manages heat, noise and battery life, as well as how slim and light it really is.

 

I'm still not sure if the 15" Black Edition has an optical drive. I don't like ODD's so I would like it not to have one. My first choice still is the V5 573G for now, but the V Nitro looks so much better. What I don't like is that the non-Black Edition has GT 840M graphics, that's too weak for my taste. The 15" Black Edition will be expensive in my country is my guess.

 

my bet is that it will have i7 4712HQ most likely. I don't think it can cool a full quad core like 4710HQ so yeah. we might even see a 4200H if acer isn't confident enough

 

From what I understand from Acer's press publication, the normal V Nitro uses ULV processors and the Black Edition uses "standard voltage" Core CPUs. What that means remains to be seen though.

 

It's an interesting addition to their line and a welcome one. Acer is not doing terribly well as far as sales go and they seem to be looking for other ways of improving them than just throwing dozens of new notebooks at customers.

A few years ago they had multiple 15" notebooks and multiple 17" in Aspire series alone plus 13" and TravelMate series. These days Asus have replaced them as far as quantity goes (who can count all 15" Asus notebooks?) whereas Acer seems to have decided to offer less models but better engineered ones.

Acer Aspire V5-573G is a great example of how well that can work. I'm waiting for first review of this new series and I'm gonna hold off buying V5-573G until then.

I have only two concerns - the cooling system of such a slim notebook might not be able to handle 45W CPUs (v5-573G has a 15W CPU so it's not a problem) and the other potential issue - the price. I really hope Acer does remember they are not Alienware and they need to be competitive against MSI or Lenovo as far as price goes.

 

I owned both the Lenovo Y50 and the Acer V5-573G and if these new Acer Laptops are in terms of build quality anywhere as good as the V5-573G, it's gonna blow every Laptop in the 900-1100$/Euros price range out of the water. Considering that even the V5-573G gets fairly warm on the surface, I assume they are gonna just throttle the [swearword] out of the CPU or build in stronger fans since the V5-573G fans are so quiet under load.

But by the time these new Laptops arrive, we might already see first Laptops with the new Nvdia and ATI GPUs: 865M, 870M/880M with Maxwell Architecture, M295X, etc.

Acer should have released these Laptops couple months ago....

 

You have to give Acer credit for trying. They are producing some interesting products these days. The P645 is taking the Travelmate in the direction Acer should have been pushing this sub-brand for years. The 15" Nitro could be an interesting notebook if Acer can cool the CPU/GPU. I hope the company foregoes a CD in the 15" unit. I like what they've done with the V5. I even like Acer's new Bay Trial Pentium Fanless notebooks. An 11.6" Bay Trail Pentium would be a great little travel device and should sell in the sub-$350 range.

 

man what u expect in 2014 ??
and why u asking such weird question what , after purchase u wanted to remove 860M ? and u want put there 870 do you ? man just get real...
soon or later EVERY HW will be soldered on MB in every laptop if u wanna remove things re-think properly what u want to buy (specs)

man display is IPS every manufs. now has ips same like smartphone therefore same quality
I hope there will be 3x or 4x mSATA ports and PROPER RAID 0 support !

 

Really nice, but I bet prices are gonna be sky rocketted and no one could afford them.
I would like to see 15" model with no odd, BLACK colored(because it looks cool) with GTX graphics card(to be compatible with nvidia shield), cpu doesn't really matter that much. I wish it was under 1200$.

 

I bet quite some money, that the Black Edition will be using either CPUs like i5-4210M or even more likely the i7-4712MQ. that fits the sources claiming that the BEs will use 37W-TDP-CPUs.

well, I will definetly keep an eye on those laptops, as both series seem interesting. the 15'' could be a great successor of the V5-573 and the 17'' would follow the V3-772G, but with stronger GPU and a backlite keyboard at last!

edit: look what I just found ...
http://geizhals.de/acer-aspire-vn7-791g-759q-nx-mqreg-004-a1152073.html

though that would mean 47W-CPU. seems pretty much like not yet correct specs. I still bet for a i7-4712 ...

nice specs thouigh and a nice package.

 

I found aspire v15 nitro hands on video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAtKkwd919U

v17 nitro:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRdukzdMjDk

I also noticed, that v15 nitro black version has sticker on it "GTX 880M"

 

Thanks for the links. It's pretty much confirmed now the 15" Black Edition has no optical drive which makes it very interesting for me. The non-Black Edition does have an optical drive so it seems.

 

there are dozen vids now
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=acer+nitro
the question is if its gonna be better than msi GS .. if NOT ill be swiching to msi gs70
bcos i can get with Nvidia GTX 870 M 3GB for 1000 pounds!

 

Looks like there will be many different configurations.

http://xoffer.hk/product.php?p=2014hkua&pt=1&a=&i=1762

15" black with i5 4210h/860M

Non-black is definitely ULV/840M.

Btw:
VN7-571G = 15"
VN7-591G = 15" Black Edition
??? = 17"
VN7-791G = 17" Black Edition

 

but wouldn't the i5-4210H mean 47W as TDP for the CPU again? thos H-CPUs seem to be used a lot lately (Y50 has it, MSI does use it on GE60 and GE70). Intel must be making really good prices on those things (which are i7-4710, who have defekts on at least one core, I think - though no idea why they have such high TDP. maybe the need a bit more voltage ...).

but that offer of xoffer sounds nice. with current exchange rates, this would mean roughly 700€ ... and that is WITH windows 8.1.

your name scheme does make sense to me. I will keep my eyes on those babies for sure. the VN7-791G does look very tempting. the 591G as well, if it doesn't get to hot and lound.

edit:
http://geizhals.de/?cat=nb&asuch=86...379_17~9_1920x1080~525_Acer~883_GeForce+GTX+8
well, they are priced a little higher in Germany ... though, 1200€ for those specs looks totally okay for me. and I bet there will be versions without OS, too.

my wish would be the VN7-791G without OS, i7-4710 and just a 500GB for roughly 1000€. add in an M2-SSD like the M550 with 256 GB for 100€ and a Windows license. and you are on the go for 1150€ with a nice looking nlaptop. that dust defender technology does sound promising, too.

and IPS on a 17 inch panel? there are only VERY few laptops out there ... :thumbsup:

 

I think the Xoffer model is so cheap because it's some sort of student program or something like that. HK$ 10,198 would translate to € 985.

I found the 15" Black on pre-order for € 1099

ACER Aspire VN7-591G-77A9 Notebook schwarz Notebooks günstig bei SATURN bestellen

i7 4710HQ, 1TB HD + 128GB SSD.

An i5 version without SSD could well be € 899 in my opinion. Maybe € 999 for an i7 without SSD?

With those prices the Lenovo Y50 stands no chance if you ask me. The Acer will only fail if the cooling and the build quality sucks.

And prices should come down a bit when availability grows.

 

well, the Y50 is available with i7 and HDD for 999€, too. the advantage of the Y50 could be the aluminium case (partly) and (perhaps) the keyboard. the IPS-panel of the Acer will, on the other side, TOTALLY wipe the floor with the FullHD-TN-panel of the Y50.

BIG question in my eyes is the heat management. the VN7-591 seems SO thin. and the V5 573 wasn't really praised for its cooling capacity - with ULV-CPUs and a somewhat cooler GTX850M.

both NBs are interesting. plus I want to see the VN7-791Gs performance (and cooling solution), too.

 

I disagree on v5 573. It's maximum temps in notebookcheck review were 75*C for GPU and 83*C for CPU (while running both FurMark and Prime95).
Admittedly the casing got quite hot (max 52*C) but that's not an issue - it can't possibly not become hot. The important part is that temps were fine and there was not throttling.

Although I agree that you have a point - v5 573G managed those temps with 15W CPU and Nitro ones would have to be able to pull that off with 47W ones which is quite frankly impossible. Lenovo Y50 had a max casing temperature of 60*C with 47W CPU and it looks like Y50 is thicker than Nitros are going to be - that might mean another MSI Fiery Disaster (or whatever they called it )

Seeing as this is a brand new series from Acer it should draw some interest from reviewers so we might have the answers sooner than later.

 

Remember that the Lenovo Y50 has CPU turbo boost disabled (disabled above 65C CPU temp - and any decent load will push CPU past 65C in less than a minute - so basically disabled), so the temps are actually quite high if you consider that.

Same goes for the Acer V5-573G - turbo boost disabled under stresstest (running @ 1.7GHz - confirmed by notebookcheck). It can run @ max turbo boost speed of 2.4GHz in other computers under stresstest, meaning it's limited in bios most likely.

Many manufacturers cheats us by disabling turbo boost thus getting away with poor thermal capabilities, I believe it will be the same for the new nitro series.

 

I am still courious, if the will really use the i7-4710MQ or (that guy from Acer stated in every vid from gamescom, that they use 37W-CPUs in the Black Edition series) more likely i7-4702 (which would be a little ouddated) or i7-4712. these would help the temps a bit but would still provide a nice performance, especially in games that favour quadcores (multiplayer BF, Mechwarrior online, Guild Wars, ...).

 

These do look like some sexy machines.

 

Acer NX.MQLEG.001 VN7-591G-590D I5-4210H - NX.MQLEG.001 de Notebooks billiger notebook.de

15" Black with i5 4210H - € 993

Saturn.de has some prices, which should give us an indication of the prices we can expect in Europe.
http://www.saturn.de/webapp/wcs/sto...file=onlineshop&searchParams=&path=&query=VN7

Looks like most configurations have 128GB SSDs built in.

 

Luckily these are mSATA SSDs so you can replace a SATA HDD with SSD without throwing away the 128GB SSD. Otherwise that would be a waste of money as 128GB is not enough.

993€ seems like a good price though - thanks for sharing that info.

 

to be exact, it are M.2-SSDs. and yes, those 128GBs are not THAT convincing (but at least a good start).

as I posted above: just give me an VN7-791G with i7-4712MQ and 8 GB RAM + 500GB HDD without OS. this should be priced a little lower than 1000€ and I can upgrade it with the stuff I want (256GB-SSD for less than 100 bucks plus windows key (I have one win7-key lying around ...)).

though that VN7-591G at 1100€ IS very tempting, too.

 

A very interesting aspect for me is, that, according to saturn.de, the 15" VN7-571 has an optical drive and the 15" black series VN7-591 has none. This is more or less also confirmed by the presented pictures. Was this already recognized or mentioned elsewhere? What could the reason be?

 

@dlaurent82

Good point. 571 uses a lot slower GPU so there's less heat to dissipate and probably cooling system takes less space so it will have a completely different motherboard and as such there might be enough place left for an optical drive (not that I see a reason to have one)

 

I have read of that before. but on the other hand, I find it hard to imagine, that the VN7-591 would use such a bulky cooling system, that the ODD-bay hasn't enough space anymore. plus two different motherborads are clearly possible. but as a manufacturer, I would avoid this as much as possible.

s in the end there is just more stuff I am courious about. even though I find the VN7-571 rather uninteresting..

 

Was pretty much confirmed. I think the VN7-571G is an all-round multimedia notebook which "needs" the optical drive and the VN-591G Black Edition the high-performance gaming notebook where it's not really needed.

Also, what downloads said.. The VN7-591G needs all the space for cooling I think. VN7-571G has a 15W ULV cpu and much slower graphics.

If the VN7-571G had GTX 850M graphics it would have been very interesting for me, but with an 840M it just isn't.

More prices from Germany:
http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_no...earch-alias=computers&field-keywords=VN7-591G

A 999/1099/1299 pricing scheme for the 15" Black seems quite logical to me.

My budget only allows the i5 version, but maybe I can stretch it for the 1099 i7 version.

 

well, in my eyes the i7 is really worth the additional 100€s. there are even yet some games out there, which benfit from a quad. and with the new consoles out, this number will clearly rise in the next couple of years.

this i7-version of the VN7-591G is tempting me as well. because as much as i would like the bigger screen of the VN7-791G, I am not sure if it would fit in my existing backpack. and from time to time I have to travel for my job. that's when my NB leaves home and has to fit in the backpack ...

and what I find really interesting: nearly all websites/-shops have clearly visible faults in there given specs. i5-4210M with 1,7 GHz at amazon? does nobody even compare those specs with Intel or someone alike? other shops list an i7-4702, but state 2,5-3,5 GHz. fail again. could it be SO hard for Acer to give out correct specs to the shops?

or do the shops not know it better at the moment? maybe they only get the exact specs after IFA?

those pics at amazon are interesting. they do mix wildly the Black edition and the non-BE. the BE has the SD-slot on the front side, where the non-BE has is on the left side. then there a pics withou a fan outlet on the back, other pics do have it. what pics are for 15'' and what for 17'' can only be guessed by the clearance next to the keyboard.

what is completly missing are actual pics of the VN7-791G. in the videos on YT you could clearly see the fan exhausts on the back, in the "metal" part on the center. that also confirms the noted dual fans. if this is true for the 591G as well, seems to be unclear. the pic with the central fan exhaust must be VN7-771G , I suppose, given the clearance next to the keyboard (second picture at amazon).

the ODD must be on the left of the VN7-571G, as the SD-slot is on the right side (last picture at amazon). the 591G has it on the left side, according to the video.

also, the USB-connections seem quite crammed together on the right side for VN7-591G (or is it the 791G? - I mean the fourth picture).

sooo many questions ...

 

1100 Euros for i7-CPU and GTX 860M is simplay not worth it. You can already get Laptops with GTX 870M or Radeon M290X in that price region.

 

Which laptops? I can't find any in that price range in my country.

That "other" laptop is not the Black Edition and also not the normal edition. It's an, for me at least, unknown 14" laptop from Acer.

 

the cheapest thing would be the MSI GX70:
MSI GX70-3CC8H11B (176K-SKU3) Gamer Notebook: Notebook Preisvergleich - Preise bei idealo.de
and the AMD-CPU is CLEARLY not worth the money.

next cheapest thing is the Medion Erazer X7829:
Medion Erazer X7829 (MD 98775) Multimedia Notebook: Notebook Preisvergleich - Preise bei idealo.de

yes, that thing does have better specs. but you get an ugly looking and far more heavy and bulky laptop for that price.

 

I just found this Acer | Aspire V Nitro | Aspire V Nitro7-591G | Datasheet and in description it says that screen will be 1366 x 768, and that will be major drawback for me. If they put 1080p screen im in, and i will pay today, but if they really put 720p i will have to wait for asus g551 :/

 

@moske07

There will be both. Aspire v5-573G also has a 720p version available although it's very hard to find one (I saw one in Media Markt once).
These Nitros will be available mostly with 1080p displays - no doubt about it.

 

I really hope so!! Its a shame that Acer Aspire VN7-591G, available on amazon now for pre order is 720p. I guess we will have to wait for 10/10/2014 and see all the different models.

 

Okay for some reason I can't post any links.

One K56-4N SE for 1100 Euros: i7-CPU with ATI M290X (You can upgrade to GTX 870M for an additional 30 Euros)

Gigabyte P25W for 1200 Euros: i7-CPU with GTX 870M

 

well, Acer has them finally on their homepage:

Acer | Aspire V Nitro

and I am courious abut one special model:
Acer | Aspire V Nitro | Aspire V Nitro7-591G | Overview
no SSD (so you don't aren't "forced" to use the small 128GB-SSD), 500GB HDD (which I find sufficient) and still i7-4710 and GTX860M.

what I do find irritating: all the listet NBs use CPUs with 47W TDP, namely the i5-4210H and the i7-4710HQ. this is a clear contradiction to the guy from Gamescom. and it it would make no sens in such small laptops, anyway.

 

@brrrbrack

Something in the link to Clevo notebook you posted had broken the page and anything following your post wouldn't display so I had to delete the post, sorry.
I couldn't find any other way around the issue.

 

So there are VN7-571G models with DDR3 GTX 850M, that should be a nice budget gaming laptop and a nicer looking alternative to V5-573G. It weighs a bit more though, 2.4 KG vs 2.0 KG.

And about those Clevo's, I'm sure they are quality products but I don't like the looks of them to put it nicely.

 

I don't see an issue with being "forced" to use an SSD--small or otherwise-- the laptops still come with larger platter drives. the one you have listed shows 8GB SSD and 500GB HDD, which suggests its a smaller SSHD instead.

and from what I remember, at least the Black Edition versions were all supposed to get 47W CPUs

 

no, they were supposed to use "standard voltage CPUs with a TDP of 37W". thats what Acer stated at Gamescom.

my "issue" with those 128GB-SSD is, that these small SSDs may be sufficient (for windows and the most important programs, including a game or two). but 128GBs are not that much nowadays and the small SSDs do suffer in terms of write speed. beginning from 256 GB, this problems starts to vanish. but to get the NB, you have to pay for the SSD, which is supposed to be replaced anyway - that's a waste of money.

and yes, 500GB HDD + 8 GB SSD is a SSHD for sure.

 

I didn't know this, thanks.

 

The Gigabyte model is excellent for that price, but i am not convinced yet mainly because ive never seen any of the Gigabyte previous models.
On the other hand Acer has good reputation, and 128gb ssd version of 591G for 1099€ is going to be the best option out there. Main opponents for this model are Y50 with terrible screen and yet to be realized Asus Rog g551 that will cost fortune. To sum all, the only way i'll chose some other brand will be if Acer do a terrible job with cooling.

 

https://www.cyberport.de/?DEEP=1C26-94Y&APID=6

they state, tha they have the VN7-591G in stock. hhhmmm. this would surely mean laptops out there before octobre ...

but looking at the pictures: who is responsible for the location of the ports? all three USB-ports crammed together at the right side? what a fail! this is totally bull for using a mouse next to the NB if you are righthanded.