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    [Acer Aspire 1410/1810t/1810tz] Timeline Tweaks (2)

    Discussion in 'Acer' started by der_mali, Sep 19, 2009.

  1. der_mali

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    Hello, fellow ZH7 users!

    This is the follow-up thread to Phil's great Timeline Tweaks thread.
    I've decided to leave out 13"+ timelines for now and focus on the 11.6" models.
    3810T, 4810T, 5810T and Travelmate users are welcome to create dedicated tweaks threads.
    Some tweaks in this thread work for other timelines too, though.

    This is a collection of tips & tricks contributed by members of this board.
    Please help me to keep this thread updated with the newest info :)


    Software

    ... Drivers:
    ...... Chipset & SATA
    ......Graphics:
    Update:
    If you have problems installing the graphics drivers in Win7 x64 check these posts:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5466246&postcount=365
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5465939&postcount=362
    Update: 1986 Drivers are buggy, better use older ones.
    ...... Wireless LAN(Attention: 1810TZ uses Intel Wifi Link 1000)
    ...... Atheros LAN
    ...... Realtek Audio
    ... Recommended Tools:

    1810tray
    Tray utility to control your fan, power options and screen resolution
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=421850

    Recommended by Der_Mali, not by Phil:
    Battery Bar
    Much more accurate than Vista's battery life predictions
    http://osirisdevelopment.com/BatteryBar/

    Phil had issues with Battery Bar on his 1810tz and advises not to install it. For more battery information use RMClock.

    ... New! Linux:

    Installing Ubuntu + Tips&Tricks
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=434638

    Windows tax refund
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=427347

    ... Tweaks:

    Fn shortcut for brightness not working in XP
    Flash to BIOS v3120 or above
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5407896&postcount=270

    Win7 30sec boot delay problem
    Update: BIOS v3117 solves this problem
    enable both AHCI and IDE mode in registry
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5357273&postcount=53

    How can I play 720p/1080p mkv / H264 files?
    With MPC HC and Cyberlink Power DVD codec: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=399952
    Discussion on best software and image quality of DXVA: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=408933

    How can I increase the volume of the internal speakers?
    Apply the tweak described here: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=171732

    Custom resolution in Win7 without VGA dummy
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5335691&postcount=37

    How to disable the automatic fan activation when on AC power(Win7 only):
    (this does not completely shut down the fan)
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5286176&postcount=1791

    Optimizing battery life and undervolting
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5312927&postcount=87
    A more detailed guide from pirkolchik
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5369398&postcount=82

    Win7 drivers tweaking
    How to reduce CPU load and maximize battery life:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5287567&postcount=1807

    How can I enable two finger scrolling and three finger gestures for the touchpad?
    Solution 1:
    Solution 2:



    Hardware

    Datasheets
    How to identify your webcam model
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5539923&postcount=4

    Dual core CPU features comparison
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5466542&postcount=783

    Disassembly guide
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5446911&postcount=320

    How to enable virtualization on 1410/1810.
    Update: Acer enabled VT in BIOS v3117
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5300618#post5300618

    Overlocking ZH7(1410/1810t/1810tz)
    Update: Improved overclocking MOD created by inteks!
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=438415
    Update: SLG8SP513V does not overclock successfully with SetFSB!
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5324728&postcount=2398
    ( Benchmark results)

    Undervolting MOD
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5370489&postcount=88

    'Upgrade' your stock 2GB 667MHz RAM module to 800MHz for free
    Update: Thaiphoon Burner does not work on 64bit OS!
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5333093&postcount=14

    If you need max performance in games buy 800MHz dual channel RAM!
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5268276#post5268276

    Bluetooth module info:
    Users have reported that third party cables don't work. Please report back when you find something!
    Update:
    Update:
    Bluetooth retrofit assembly guide
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5446911&postcount=320


    Keyboard model info:
    Hardware MOD to improve fan quietness
    Pix of disassembled 1410
    Is webcam image quality lacking? Check this first:

    General tips and tricks

    Installing Win7 without needing activation
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?t=433602
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5478619&postcount=99

    How to install Windows 7 from a flash drive
    The easy way: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5329860#post5329860
    Alternative: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showthread.php?p=5279482#post5279482

    Creating recovery ISOs if you don't own an external DVD drive:
    Vista performance tips:
    How to check your RAM integrity
    BIOS recovery.
    If you bricked your device, this might help. Works on 8471, other timelines should be similar. Warning!This is experimental! Please report back if it works for you!
    Accessories

    Cases/Sleeves
    Two pockets case:
    http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5401420&postcount=249

    Power adapters
    Changelog:
    Nov 28. - inteks' overclocking MOD added
    Nov 25. - daigual's bluetooth retrofit guide added
    Nov 21. - Kermee's webcam identification method added
    Nov 15. - Linux section added
    Nov 15. - New Win7/Vista graphics drivers added
    Nov 10. - prikolchik's Win7 install guide(passes OEM activation) added
    Nov 9. - RAM flashing update: Thaiphoon Burner does not work on 64bit OS
    Oct 31st - "Acer Aspire 3935" removed from compatible keyboards list
    Oct 31st - Dual core CPU features comparison added
    Oct 26. - Chilko's bluetooth retrofit and general disassembly guide added
    Oct 18. - XP Fn-brightness fix added
    Oct 14. - Case added
    Oct 12. - Sleeve added
    Oct 10. - New XP graphics drivers added
    Oct 10. - Atheros LAN driver link fixed
    Oct 8. - ICS9LPRS365 datasheet link fixed
    Oct 6. - Netbook sleeve added
    Oct 6. - Netbook sleeve removed from accessories list
    Oct 4. - New XP graphics drivers added
    Oct 4. - Compatible keyboards info added
    Oct 4. - prikolchik's undervolting guide added
    Oct 3rd - Undervolting MOD added
    Oct 3rd - ISL6261 datasheet added
    Oct 2nd - BIOS v3117 VT info added
    Oct 1st - Smartfan removed, 1810tray added
    Oct 1st - 'Recommended Tools' category added
    Sept 29. - Boot delay, AHCI/IDE mode in Win7
    Sept 24. - 'Accessories' category added
    Sept 23rd - New graphics drivers added
    Sept 23rd - Bluetooth module info updated

    Please help to expand by adding your own tips and tweaks :)
     
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  2. dasfool

    dasfool Notebook Enthusiast

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    I figured out that the correct Atheros LAN driver is the "AR8131_AR8132" one.
     
  3. der_mali

    der_mali Weihnachtsmann

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    Thanks, I've fixed it :)
     
  4. zrbarnes

    zrbarnes Notebook Enthusiast

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    @der_mali, when you are using SetFSB with the OC mod, is the processor still able to scale back automatically for power savings or does it stay at full power the whole time?
     
  5. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    yes.
    because setfsb overclocks the FSB.
    while when you have intel speedstep to save power, it lowers the multi.

    Overclocking the FSB will slightly raise your minimum frequency, but not by much since the multi goes way down.
     
  6. jackluo923

    jackluo923 Notebook Virtuoso

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    There's a better way of installing windows 7 on a flash drive.
    Using winrar,image mounter or anything that can open the disk image file, copy the contents to a flashdrive. Then boot from a flash drive to install windows 7. It's really that simple.
     
  7. zrbarnes

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    SetFSB changes the FSB, that makes sense, haha. That program has been around for awhile. I remember it from a few years back.

    So does the OC mod unlock more multipliers?

    It's been a few years since I've messed with hardware mods, and my brain is hurting.
     
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    @jackluo923
    If you provide a link or post a step by step guide, I'll include it in the list :)

    @zrbarnes
    This OC doesn't unlock multipliers. Like moral hazard says, it just overclocks the FSB from 200 to 250(or any other value the RAM can handle) so the CPU speed rises from 7x200=1400 to 7x250=1750.
     
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    Ah, Thank you! I didn't realize FSB was hard-locked on these (I hadn't tried setFSB).
     
  10. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    typo, you mean setfsb not softfsb.

    Softfsb is really old software that I used like 6 years ago to overclock my 166mhz cpu to 220mhz.
     
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    @jackluo923
    Thanks, added :)
     
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    Yep, that's a typo, but they've both been around for longer than that. SetFSB just is still being developed.
     
  14. der_mali

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    'Upgrade' your stock 2GB 667MHz RAM module to 800MHz for free

    Warning! If something goes wrong, your RAM will be useless. This tutorial applies to the 2GB module the 1810t is delivered with. If you got a 3GB version, you have to find a proper flash-dump for the second 1GB module yourself.

    How to recover if something goes wrong and the notebook doesn't boot with the flashed module any more: http://forum.notebookreview.com/showpost.php?p=5335326&postcount=31

    My 1810t was delivered with a M4 70T5663EH3-CE6 PC2-5300 RAM stick for which this tutorial is written. If your's is different, stop reading!

    1. Download Thaiphoon Burner
    http://cbid.at.tut.by/html/download.html

    2. Extract and run Thaiphoon Burner
    3. Select 'EEPROM'->'Read SPD at 52h'(if the RAM module is in slot2, else select 'Read SPD at 50h') Check if the info on the right is correct.
    4. Click 'Save'. This will save a dump of the RAM that you can reflash if something goes wrong.
    5. Click 'Browser'
    6. Click 'Download'. This will download a list of SPD dumps.
    7. In 'Search String' write 'ddr2-800', in 'Capacity' select '2048', in 'Architecture' select 'DDR2 SDRAM', click 'Search'
    8. Select 'Samsung M4 70T5663QZ3-CF7'
    9. Click 'Open Dump'
    10. Click 'Write', select 'Full Rewrite'
    11. Select the right SPD Device Address (see step 3.)
    12. Select 'Use the current SPD dump from Hex Editor', click 'Write'
    13. After completion reboot and enjoy PC2-6400 speed.

    I don't take responsibility for eventual damage. This is an advanced modding technique and should be fully understood before trying.
     
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    zrbarnes Notebook Enthusiast

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    @der_mali

    Another excellent find. Smooth as butter.

    Just a small typo, '2024' should be '2048', but I knew what you meant.
     
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    lol
    Sorry, I've corrected it :)
     
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    Currently getting 6:20 on my Acer 1410 with a stock 4400 mAh battery.

    My current set up:
    -Windows 7, 32-bit, many unneeded services disabled (including aero and fancy graphics)
    -undervolted to .875v with rmclock
    -stock memory stick "upgraded" to ddr2-800mhz by flashing the spd values
    -vt enabled should help power consumption when I'm using a virtual machine
    -wireless card set to lowest transmit power (unless having difficulties connecting, then I increase it)
    -using the newest (1883) video drivers, set to max power savings
    -currently using stock windows 7 audio drivers since the realtek ones were using a lot of cpu
    -screen brightness set to the lowest, unless I'm having difficulty reading
    -windows 7 power saver mode
    -hibernate when I shut the lid
    -using foobar instead of windows media player
    -using google chrome instead of firefox/ie8

    So basically, I'm running everything as lite as possible, except I've still got all the performance at my fingertips when I need it. I love the whole line of thinking for these new cpu's "let's hurry up and get this done, so that I can go back to sleep (save power)".
     
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    @zrbarnes
    Your 1410 and TrueEco's 1810t prove that Win7 will yield the same battery life as Vista after proper tweaking :D
    I'm looking forward to the Win7 upgrade now.
     
  19. moral hazard

    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You could try to save it by putting the bad ram in with some slower ram.
    both sticks should run at the slower sticks speed,

    then you could reflash it.

    But this doesn't always work so dont count on it.

    Also maybe you should also show how to slow your ram down to 533mhz so that you can overclock the fsb further?
     
  20. der_mali

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    I don't know if the 1410/1810t would boot with 533MHz RAM. It needs at least 667MHz afaik. I've experimented a bit with changing timings but the problem is that you can't change the first CL value, which is the most important. If you manipulate the first value the tables just get shifted. Ive found out that the RAM in this example is easier to overclock at 800MHz 6-6-6-18 than 667MHz 5-5-5-15.
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    ok. I wasn't sure if your chipset supported 533mhz or not.


    I'm not sure, but maybe SPDtool is better?
     
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    Actually I've used SPDtool first. Thaiphoon Burner has the advantage that it has got an excellent timing editor and an online SPD-dump database.

    My current plan is to buy 800MHz 5-5-5-15 RAM and try to overclock this. If it doesn't work that good, I will search for a proper SPD dump from a DIMM with 6-6-6-18 timings @800MHz and try that.
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    you know I have 800mhz ram in my notebook right now.
    It's samsung 2gb 800mhz DDR2 ram. 6-6-6-18 timmings.

    I have two of the sticks.
    Bad thing about them is that WP (write protection) is enabled and so I cant flash them (even after a HW mod I tried).

    But what I can do is give you an SDP dump.
     
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    Thanks :) What is the manufacturers part number of your RAM?

    I've just killed my 1GB module :rolleyes:
    I've programmed a (much)slower tRAS value and now it wont boot. Do you know which pins are the SPD pins on the module? Have you got a pinout at hand?
     
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    Earlier today, I allllmoost started messing around with the timings, then stopped because I have no backup ram.

    I used to use a program called a64tweaker that could change (non-permanently) memory timings on the fly. It would be great if something like that existed for these newer intel platforms. Heck, it might and I just don't know about it.
     
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    @moral hazard
    Thanks for that, but what I'm searching for is the pinout of the DIMM. I want to tape all pins except SPD and put it in the slot. I want to see if I can reflash the SPD then.
     
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    sorry my mistake.
    I think I remember seeing a pinout, just can't remember where.

    If I find it I'll let you know.
    Right now I will quickly check my ram for you so I'll be offine for a sec.
     
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    my ram is M470T5663QZ3-CF7
     
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    That's exactly the one I've flashed my module with ;)

    Edit:
    Now that was easy! My 1GB module is working again :D
    So basically you can do what you want with the SPD, there is always a way back. You just need a second module in the notebook to start the PC. All pins of the broken module have to be covered with thin tape except the SPD pins(see picture, green is free, red is covered with tape. Actually this picture describes a different DIMM but on standard 200pin notebook DDR2 it's the same. The last 4 pins on both sides are SPD pins). The notebook is turned on with only a working module installed and when Windows boots, "hot-plug" the taped module. Now Thaiphoon Burner sees the SPD of the broken module and you can flash a working SPD-dump :) After flashing shut down the PC, remove the tape from the module, clean it and put it back in.
     
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    @moral hazard

    Can you please post a dump of your RAM with 5-6-6-18 settings?
    My RAM produces errors after 15min Orthos @255MHz FSB.
    I would like to avoid the hassle with a dead RAM like I had after I changed tRAS timings.
     
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    moral hazard Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Thanks for that great info, I have a stick of ram that I bricked and I would like to fix :D
    Thanks again +rep.

    My ram downclocks to 667mhz in my system, I don't know if that matters?

    So should I use memset to increase the timmings from 5-5-5-15 to 5-6-6-18 and then use thaiphoon burner to make the dump?

    Or should I make the SPD dump with spdtool?
    or both?
     
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    The changed 667MHz timings affect all other timings too. So 800MHz values should be around 6-7-7-20 I suppose.
    It doesn't matter, I've both programs installed.
     
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    ok, I have attached a zip file with my stock timming dump and the 5-6-6-18 timming dump.
     

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    Thanks a lot!
    I'll try it soon :D

    Edit:
    There seems to be something wrong, both checksums are identical to my current checksum (56h). So the files are both original timing dumps.

    Edit2:
    Now I understand! I've downloaded Memset. It makes non-permanent changes to the RAM timings so they don't change the SPD content. Great little program.
     
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    hi,

    i like to have the resolution 1024x576p for gameplay because 1366x768 is to slow and 848x480 is to blurry

    windows 7 is able to use a second monitor without a real monitor is connected and then intel custom resolution via DTD hack are aviable.

    1. import dtds.reg or use DTD Calculator to tweak your resolutions than reboot
    2. in destopcontextmenu select "Screen Resolution"
    3. click "Detect"
    4. in Combobox select "Connect Anyway"
    5. Select "Apply"
    6. in Combobox select "Duplicate these Displays"
    7. click "Apply"

    screenshots are attached

    have fun
    inteks



    update:
    1. with "windowsKey + P" you can easy switch between clonemode & single mode
    2. i found out that there is a problem with customresolution trick and "poweroptions->TurnOffDisplay" !!!
    when i use a custom res my 1810t reboots after its turned the display off !!!!
    for me the solution is simple i use only "dim the display" and "standby"
     

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    @inteks
    Great tweak! I've added it :)
     
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    New graphics drivers:
     
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    inteks Notebook Evangelist

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    hiho,

    i tested the latest everest beta and it shows 333mhz for the gpu core !!! :eek:
    i thought its clocked @ 533Mhz .....

    is it possible to overclock the gpu (like gma booster it does) ??

    /inteks
     
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    der_mali Weihnachtsmann

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    @inteks
    It should run at 320Mhz, that's normal for gs45. Overclocking the FSB will overclock the graphics chip too. At 1.75GHz it runs at around 400MHz.

    The chipset is said to have a "HD Turbo" function to clock it to 533MHz for Blue Ray decoding, but I don't know how to activate it. Your best bet will be to find an Intel chipset expert to find that turbo function. I hacked around a little bit with RW-Everything, but now that I found a way to overclock the FSB I don't care anymore.
     
  42. superantew

    superantew Notebook Enthusiast

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    If i use the windows sound driver. instead of realtek

    is it possible to still get sound trough hdmi and spdif?

    What does the realtek do what windows can´t?
     
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    zrbarnes Notebook Enthusiast

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    I can verify that audio over hdmi still works, haven't tried spdif yet, but the option is there.

    TBH, who knows what all the differences are. Could be sound quality (or maybe not, it sounds fine with stock windows drivers).

    The most obvious difference is the eq, and certain modifications you can make to the sound via the realtek control panel.

    Edit:

    If anyone wants to use this http://jkkmobile.blogspot.com/2008/10/how-to-3g-hsdpa-to-acer-aspire-one.html as a launching pad to see if that mini pci-e connector works, that would be great :p
     
  44. AcerTimelineHunter

    AcerTimelineHunter Notebook Geek

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    I've tried undervolting with only half success. RMClock works, I see the multiplayer changing on demand, but the VID seems to be locked to 0.8750. No matter what I set in the profiles it doesn't change. Even if I set all voltages to 0.71250 my 1810 runs just fine, and RMclock displays 0.8750V. I was expecting lots of BSODs during tweaking, but got none either.
    Has anyone run into this problem?
     
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    der_mali Weihnachtsmann

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    It's simple, 0.8750V is the lowest possible voltage the CPU will accept, so everything is working fine on your 1810t :) Even at 1750MHz/0.8750V my su3500 won't produce BSODs.
     
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    OMGSnarf Notebook Enthusiast

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    Someone here verified a BT module that DOES work in the 1410. Might want to add to the main post under the BT section.
     
  47. HTWingNut

    HTWingNut Potato

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    I have a question about CPU-Z. It indicates a multiplier of 8x and with my DDR2 800 RAM it shows 8x200MHz = 1.6GHz not 1.4GHz. Is this an issue with CPU-Z, Windows, or is this just a free speed boost?

    [​IMG]

    Also, with RMClock, I can't get it below ~1.01xxx Volts, and it only shows x6 and x7 multipliers. I'm a bit confused.
     
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    zrbarnes Notebook Enthusiast

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    This is because of SuperLFM mode in the CPU. It effectively halves the FSB while idling, in order to reduce power consumption. So the actual performance might be comparable to 800mhz instead, but as soon as you start to use the computer, it switches into the 1.2ghz or 1.4ghz mode.
     
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    Flowah Notebook Consultant

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    Is there a bios update?
     
  50. der_mali

    der_mali Weihnachtsmann

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    In 'Advanced CPU Settings' you have to switch to 'Mobile' and you have to apply the registry hack to get all VIDs. RMC doesn't support the gs45 chipset yet. 6x and 7x are correct. su3500 knows 8x/2(SuperLFM) 6x and 7x.

    Thanks, I'll add it :)

    Have you seen one? If so on which local Acer site? The latest I know is v3113
     
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