which mice is the best with 3200~5600DPI for 80$ at least?

which mice is the best with 3200~5600DPI for 80$ at least? (for gaming)

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/accessories/573829-best-gaming-mice-roccat-kone-6000-dpi.html

I thought the Roccat Kone+ was the best gaming mouse? 6000 DPI!

 

DPI isn't what makes a mouse good. If you buy a mouse with that viewpoint then you just end up getting a cheap laser mouse and staring at the ceiling when you try to turn a corner quickly because the sensor can't cope.

You want perfect track speed more than DPI, also some mice have Z axis issues which are a problem too.

OP, just get a G400 or deathadder and you should be plain sailing. Both are decent mice with more than enough DPI to do what you need to do.

 

logitech g500 or g700 for me.

 

I'm aware. I just thought it was funny because the OP started that other thread.

 

Deathadder, Naos 3200, Naos 5000 (touchy on some surfaces though, same sensor as the G700).

EDIT: If you use your left hand to mouse, forget the naos.

 

G700; once you go wireless you simply can't go back.

 

I think I'd evaluate whether you really need that speed, because a lot of mice don't track well at their max dpi's.

I've downgraded to a Cooler Master Spawn for all-purpose use, and I'm liking the comfort. It's a gaming mouse, but it performs best at 1800dpi so it's a bit slow for some. For extended bouts of FPS gaming I'm OK with the Mionix 5000 mentioned earlier, it's a tad more comfortable than e.g. the Razer Imperator (which I can take or leave) and has the same class of performance. The G9x makes my hand shrivel up and my index finger develop extreme pain.

 

The main reason, i went with the Naos is for the ergonomics of the mouse. If you have large hands, the Naos or a cooler master which i don't remember the model are your best bet. Logitech mice are too small for me to palm, even the G700.

 

hands down, id say the logitech g700. perfect mouse. real cheap on amazon.

 

Depending on your preferred level of customization, SteelSeries Sensi (on discount), or the Logitech G700 for something a bit tamer.

 

You could also look at the Logitech G9x. I have to say that I'm real happy with mine.

Especially useful is how you can adjust the mouse's weight. Currently, I have mine equipped with two 7g weights in the back.

 

I think you need to take a step back and ask yourself why you need 5600 dpi.

 

I love my Razer Lachesis

 

When you say "$80 at least", do you actually mean you don't want to spend less than that?

 

Lol^^ I ment from 0$~80$. And about the Roccat one, its good, but not the best, that's why I'm asking. So all of you are saying Deathadder or G500 or G700 or G9X?

 

Deathadder, G500/700 or Mionix Naos 3200. I would say your choice is between those 4. Like said previously, i don't go with logitech because they don't fit my hands very well, if you can confirm a logitech feels comfortable for you, go for it.

 

Well, I need a big mice for sure. So?

 

I've no experience of them, but Zowie is getting mentioned a lot as the new brand on the block. I'm of the mind that apart from the shape and added features, one laser mouse is pretty much like any other in terms of its (in?)ability to track at the insane DPI's they claim but Zowie's EC's are optical mice (like the Spawn) with very low claimed lift-off distance (unlike the Spawn). DPI tops out at 2000 though - and I have to say, as I've said before, that 1800 works for me for most uses so this might not be unusable. I dunno. It's different for sure, shape is MS Intellimouse-like which is favoured by I R SRS mousers. Might be worth a try but as I said, I've no personal experience of them.

 

It is true that laser sensors have some quirks, the z-axis issue, negative acceleration and bad tracking at high DPI on some surfaces. My Naos 5000, Avago 9250 sensor (same as the G700) has some z-axis problems at high DPI on cloth pad.

Optical: Deathadder, Naos 3200, Logitech G?
Laser: G700, Naos 5000

Haven't heard of zowie, but you might as well give them a chance like i did for mionix with the Naos and i absolutely love it.

 

lachesis (4k dpi version)

 

I've owned a G700 for 6 months, but eventually sold it due to some problems. One being that even though it's wireless, you'll need to plug it in to recharge after ~30 hours. Another thing is the build quality isn't really up to par. The mouse wheel rusts very easily, and the side panel material rubs away after awhile, even with moderate usage.

I "downgraded" to a G500, and it has all of the features that the G700 has (minus a couple buttons and being wired), but with better build quality.

 

The prolific Logitech profile would fit that requirement versus the more relaxed, slender shape of many others. Be aware that preferred grip comes into play as well.

 

Maybe I will take Razer Deathadder.

Thanks for help!

 

When would you ever be using the mouse for 30 hours straight? Even if you use the mouse for 10 hours straight it will fully recharge in under an hour from my experience. Also, I don't think what you described is the mouse wheel "rusting" (oxidizing) but rather whatever sort of coating they have on the metal wearing off a little. Honestly, for the amount of use my G700's scroll wheel gets I am not surprised, and it doesn't affect the mouse's functionality at all.
I have not had any issue with the side coating wearing off either, and I have owned my mouse for about a year.

 

The big problem I have with wireless mice isn't whether the battery lasts for 30 hours or 300 hours. The problem that I have is that I need to manage batteries to begin with.

In addition, I really like adjustable weight systems. I personally prefer light center-balanced mice, which I can achieve on a Logitech G500. A Logitech G700 is a heavy rear-balanced mouse, which changes the way that it drags across a mousepad.

I bought the Logitech G700 twice, and sold it twice. I want to like that mouse. I really do. But I just cannot get over the balance profile, and inconvenience of having to charge it at all.

 

It is all personal preference really. I like the balance of the G700. It can be annoying in that I sometimes have to charge it when I don't want to, but the pros of having no cord FAR outweighs any inconvenience with the batteries for me. I simply CANNOT play FPS games with a cord; it is just too easy for it to get caught on things, and it gives the mouse differential resistance depending on which direction I move it (pulling a corded mouse towards me often requires pulling some of the cord up from where the slack is hanging behind the desk, which means there are drastically different amounts of force required to move it forward and back). I have used the G5 and G500 and I really can't get used to their cords after using wireless mice for so long.

 

Well your problems with wired mice don't come from them being wired, they come from you using them improperly. How do you think people played games in the stone age before wireless mice didn't completely suck or even existed? The cord will only drag, get caught, or pull on the mouse if you don't spend two seconds to fix the problem.

Also the G700 feels way too heavy for me. The G500 with a single 4.5g weight in the tray is perfection for me when playing games. For desktop usage sometimes I make it heavier.

Wired mice 4 life.

 

Excuse me, but I am not an idiot. I have tried virtually every possible layout for corded mice and while some setups annoy me less than others, there is not a single configuration that comes close to the complete lack of resistance that only a wireless mouse can provide.
How would you suggest I "fix the problem" in 2 seconds? I have spent hours trying to set wireless mice up with all sorts of different lengths of cord slack and no matter what you CANNOT escape the fact that there is a cord attached to the mouse with a definite mass which adds to inertia of the mouse, creates friction with the desk, and resists flexing much more than a wireless cord would (because there isn't one). I will admit some cords (such as the charging cord for the G700) are much worse than others, but no matter what a cord will add stiffness which makes it noticeably harder to move the mouse in an arc.

So in summary, Yes, my problems from wired mice DO come from them being wired, NOT from me being an idiot as you suggest. Try to be less condescending when you make your point next time.

 

1. "it is just too easy for it to get caught on things"

Really? Maybe don't have crap sitting around where the cord is lying on your desk?

2. "it gives the mouse differential resistance depending on which direction I move it (pulling a corded mouse towards me often requires pulling some of the cord up from where the slack is hanging behind the desk, which means there are drastically different amounts of force required to move it forward and back)"

The weight of the mouse cord should be 100% supported by the surface the mouse is on. If it isn't, you need to make it that way. I can't feel the mouse cord.

 

While I could probably tell the difference between a cordless and wired mouse based on resistance from the cable, haveing a wired mouse really doesn't bother me. The difference is trivial at best and I prefer the balence of a wired mouse to a wireless mouse, wireless mice also weigh a lot comparitively which I don't like.

If the cable is really that much of a problem for you then you clearly aren't trying very hard to make things work. You just need a loop of slack lying on the desk or whatever surface you're on and then the difference is pretty much non existant.

Quick question, can you buy braided USB cables anywhere? I'd like to replace the cable on my MX518 with a braided one.

 

You clearly aren't familiar with a concept called "friction." Qing Dao and "funky monk" you two clearly do not have enough experience with wired mice to make a judgement between them. The difference in friction and cable tension IS noticeable; if you don't notice then clearly you aren't paying attention. I don't need to "make things work" with wired mice because I use a wireless mouse and I am completely happy with it; but when I used wired mice I tried having a loop of slack on my desk and that did not solve the problem. The length of cord coming out of the mouse has quite a bit of resistance when it passes over the coil.

qing dao I do not have crap on my desk; my point was with a wireless mouse IT DOES NOT MATTER if you have crap on your desk because there IS NO CORD. The fact is, most computers are on the ground next to a desk; I even have my laptop on a raised surface next to my desk in such a way that the cord would have to go behind the desk to get to the computer, unless I fastened it down to the desk as some people do. However fastening the cord down on the desk DOES interfere with the mouse movement.

I think it is best we stop this discussion NOW because you two clearly would rather personally attack me instead of logically debating the issue. You may say that you notice a "balance difference" in wireless mice; well it does not bother me just as having a cord interfere with mouse movement does not seem to bother you. I think it is best that we let this thread move on.

 

Mjolner, I use a small wireless mouse when out and about and a wired mouse at home. I'm just saying that millions of people use or have used wired mice for everything, including playing FPS's, without the horrible issues you complain about. I'm not attacking you or anybody else and I don't understand why you are getting so upset.

 

MJolner, hypocrasy much?

 

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(throws bucket of ice water to the fire *woooosh*)

Bit of advice for the OP:
DO NOT buy the Razer Naga Epic (sale or not) if you are not into MMORPGs.

I'm only using the Epic until now because
1. I just spent the last of my "mouse budget" on this thing.
2. I need the first 3 side buttons for my game (too many hotkeys).

The mouse is terribly uncomfortable for claw grip.

 

I remember a time when gamers used wired mice because of latency problems that could possibly arise when using a wireless mouse. Honestly, i don't feel a difference between my Naos 5000 and my old MX600 due to cord friction, it's actually the other way around, the pads on the naos have less friction. I didn't notice a difference when i was using my lachesis vs my mx600 either.

@OP I personally do not see any reason to go for a naga unless you are a hardcore MMO player. I'd be more likely to accidentally press more than one button actually.

 

G700.

That is all.