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    Logitech MX/VX Revolution

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by koji126, Aug 24, 2006.

  1. koji126

    koji126 Notebook Guru

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    I haven't seen any talk about this, so I thought I would bring it up. Has anyone used either the desktop or notebook mouse yet? I'm more interested in the notebook mouse right now since I just bought a laptop.
     
  2. Stickman

    Stickman Notebook Consultant

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    Err wow. I wonder what the second wheel on the side is for.

    *watches product demo*

    Oh wow. That looks really cool. Almost makes me want to trade up my G5 for that.
     
  3. pac1687

    pac1687 Notebook Guru

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    Hi,

    I just bought this mouse today at best buy, and from what little I've used it, I will definitely say that it is a step up from my MX1000. It feels better sculpted to my hand, and unlike what many other people think, the mouse is actually smaller and lighter than my MX1000, which can be a good or a bad thing. I haven't actually got the scroll wheel to do the free scroll, but again I've only used for like 20 minutes. If you've got any questions about it, I'd be glad to try and answer them.
     
  4. CyberGhost

    CyberGhost Notebook Evangelist

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    Cool!

    But are you sure it's smaller than MX1000? in pictures it looks like a tank.

    Can you take any pictures of MX1000 and MX Revo, comparison? :)
     
  5. pac1687

    pac1687 Notebook Guru

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    I've taken pictures, and to be honest with you, they look almost the same size in pictures. However, in terms of actual feel, the revolution is sculpted in such a way that it isn't as meaty in your hand as the MX1000. I guess the best way I can describe it is the part where your thumb goes feels like it is closer to your pinky finger than on the MX1000, but in a good way (at least to me). HOpe that helps.
     
  6. Stickman

    Stickman Notebook Consultant

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    I'm curious as to how well the app switch wheel and the speed scroll works.

    How does Logitech fix the problem of users having difficulty hitting the button under neath the scroll wheel?

    Make a new wheel that can auto scroll!

    So the V400 was really just the testing ground for the VX. They share similar qualities but this new mouse looks bigger and more comfortable (and sleek). But it costs twice as much almost. Ha.
     
  7. koji126

    koji126 Notebook Guru

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    How is the battery life on the revolution?
     
  8. pac1687

    pac1687 Notebook Guru

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    Stickman- the app switch wheel works better than the app switch button on the MX1000 as the wheel can move up and down the apps list instead of scrolling just downwards. The speed scroll is crazy insane when it is in free spin mode because the wheel will literally spin for 7 seconds if you flick it fast enough. Switching modes by clicking the button under the scroll wheel is not difficult at all and results in an "unlocking" sound inside the mouse. BTW, there is a review of the VX on CNET if you're interested. It seemed to do quite well.

    koji126- I don't know what the battery life is yet, although the 2 mice have almost identical batteries, so I'd imagine they are comparable.
     
  9. CyberGhost

    CyberGhost Notebook Evangelist

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    Pac, thanks for answers! :)

    But...... I've got more lol

    the horizontal(side) scroll wheel, does it click "inside"? like a normal scroll wheel does?

    Can all the buttons be configured in Setpoint software?(how many configurable buttons show up in there?)
     
  10. pac1687

    pac1687 Notebook Guru

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    Yeah, the horizontal scroll wheel does click like a normal scroll wheel does, although it doesn't spin at all. It is more of a rocker type switch, however yes all the buttons can be configured, though I'll have to check if all the buttons can be configured to do all the different things.
     
  11. CyberGhost

    CyberGhost Notebook Evangelist

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    Thanks Pac! :)
     
  12. Outrigger

    Outrigger SupaStar Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    funny thing is I went on logitech's website to download a driver, and saw these new mice, and they look so good that I've decided to get one tomorrow. it looks like the notebook is all sold out at circuitcity, so I'm going to get the desktop version first and see if its any good. I hope it doesn't interfear with my z5450 as it uses the 2.4ghz for the wireless rear speaks, so while the speakers are on, i can't use the mouse.
     
  13. koji126

    koji126 Notebook Guru

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    Pac: You have the desktop version right? Anyone with the notebook version? If no one has it, I'll probably just go out and buy one myself since I am in need of a notebook mouse.
     
  14. lumberbunny

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    Now if only they'd make them with Bluetooth...
     
  15. JM

    JM Mr. Misanthrope NBR Reviewer

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    From the pictures on Logitech’s site, I can tell I already don't like the MX model.

    It clearly doesn't support those who are left handed.

    Racism against the Lefties I say! RACISM!

    :p

    It looks cool though, but not enough for me to buy one. Even if I was right handed.

    ;)
     
  16. huskyfan23

    huskyfan23 Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm left-handed and mouse with my right hand. It's... uh... normal! It's like driving a car. You don't brake and accelerate with your left foot.

    I have an MX1000 and it works great. If you think the MX1000 is a brick then what is the Revolution? Looks even bigger!
     
  17. JM

    JM Mr. Misanthrope NBR Reviewer

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    Who says I don't?!

    :p

    And yeah, I know. I'm just weird about being left handed. All my computers are set to left handed use, ie., my notebook's touchpad buttons are reverse, etc., as is my desktop. Just feels more comfortable for me.

    I'm quite happy with my standard mouse with no features, so...

    That, and I'm too cheap to buy a mouse like that.

    ;)

    Still looks awesome, none-the-less, though.
     
  18. CyberGhost

    CyberGhost Notebook Evangelist

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    I turned to right hand with MX700, was too beautiful to resist, was kinda awkward using it with the right hand for the first couple of month, but now I've gotten so used to it, using mice with my left hand feels odd lol
     
  19. Leshii

    Leshii Notebook Evangelist

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    I'm also lefthanded and also use a mouse with my right hand :D

    Just please don't ask me to draw anything on the screen :p
     
  20. strikeback03

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    My boss is right-handed. He mouses with his left hand with the mouse in right-handed configuration. Yes it is weird.
     
  21. Outrigger

    Outrigger SupaStar Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    ok, i just went to get the mx, and its great, it looks great and feels great. the biggest gripe I had with the g7 is the use of smooth plastic exterior, it makes my hand sweats more and the sweat stays on the mouse making it look really dirty and it doesnt really contours to the shape of my hand. this mx feels great, fits my hand very well and the options on it is just fantastic, plus it has rubber grip and my hand doesn't sweat and it certainly doesn't leave any sweat mark on it. I plan to get the vx for the notebook as it is smaller and has a slot to store the receiver and uses a regular aa battery, so no station to carry around, plus it matches my asus perfectly.
     
  22. Stickman

    Stickman Notebook Consultant

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    I almost want to drop my G5 for this thing. The MX is the kind of mouse I've wanted for awhile. It has the right buttons and wheels and the right color scheme. :( **** you Logitech for constantly improving your mice. I hope you run yourselves into a wall!
     
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    [​IMG]
    "Hyper-Fast Scroll Wheel"

    I guess nobody ever told Logitech you can't reinvent the wheel!

    This would be perfect for gaming. Bind the wheel to the fire button for hand guns. You could empty a clip in just a couple seconds! What out for the Duellies baby ;)
     
  24. sheff159

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    Wow I just went onto logitech's site and that notebook one looks amazing. It makes me feel bad to say that because I love my V400 so much, but that thing is like the next step up from the V400. They do look similar. Man I really might have to get one eventually, depending on how my V400 holds up.
     
  25. huskyfan23

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    Hm. Interesting...... Sometimes you get the perfect aim in BF2 and just can't shoot enough to make the kill. ****. Now I've gotta buy one of these :p
     
  26. sheff159

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    Yeah its a cool idea, but I dont think it will work. Not in BF2. The guns are limited to RPM (rounds per minute) and it dosent matter how fast you could get iit to fire, it still wouldnt work because of the gun.
     
  27. huskyfan23

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    What about choppers though?
     
  28. sheff159

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    Oh yeah then you could unload your rockets almost instantly. Mabey if you were in single shot mode with a rifle, then you could possibly unload your rifle really fast, but the recoil would be so bad you couldnt keep it straight any way.
     
  29. huskyfan23

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    Yeah the gun part makes sense. I fly the attack chopper all the time and it's pretty hard to take down another chopper with the missles, so when you get a good shot in then you want to fire as quickly as possible.
     
  30. sheff159

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    Wow think if that worked with the AA guns on the Essex? Those things are beasts already. Omg that would be cool. It would seriously sound like thunder.
     
  31. darklich

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    Does anyone know how much bigger, especially taller, the VX is the V400?

    The V400 is slightly too tall to fit in my case. The VX looks taller.

    Also, I wish is was bluetooth capatable. I would definitly get one if was. I may have to wait for next ultimate notebook mouse.
     
  32. Stickman

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    So Logitech no longer sells the V400?

    I wonder what kind of gaming mouse will come from the advancements made in the MX/VX.
     
  33. Outrigger

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    I'll let you know when mine arrives, but bluetooth def. still sucks with a lot of lag and issues, I tried the mx1000 bluetooth version and omg it was horrible. I'm going to return the mx because its 2.4 interfares with the z5450 2.4 signal, but weird enough, it doesn't interfear when I use it on my notebook which the g7 won't work when the speakers are on....hmmmm.... really weird.
     
  34. sheff159

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    Yeah bluetooth really does suck. I wish they sold integrated 2.4 cards in notebooks, with multiple channels so your speakers, mice, etc. wouldnt interfear with each other. That would be really great. Hey mabey if I put enough work into it I could install the 2.4 card from my V400's dongle in the bluetooth bay...the bluetooth hooks up via USB right, just a different plug at the end, but its still technically a usb port right?
     
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    On the vx does the wheel allow you to scroll horizontally on web pages?
     
  37. DrewN

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    Count me in as one of the unimpressed, mainly due to the 800 dpi issue. The wheel technology is pretty cool, and a boon for long documents, but that's about it. I'm seriously considering eBaying my Revolution and switching back to a G5 or G7, which feel and are much more pinpoint accurate and sensitive than this mouse.

    Gamers be warned--at a very mediocre 800 dpi with no adjustable sensitivity settings this is not the mouse for you, IMHO. Stick with your Copperheads and G5s!
     
  38. Outrigger

    Outrigger SupaStar Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    I think you forgot that this was never advertised as a gaming mouse, although at 800 dpi is considerably low, it is enough for most users which are not hardcore gamers. I'm a causual gamer playing mostly fps and the first thing I did when I got my g5 and later g7 was to tone down the dpi. 2000 was just way too high for me, 1000 was the sweet spot, and honestly 200dpi difference is not a biggie to me. this mouse feels more comfortable and more natural than either g5 or 7. its def. a keeper. but its just a personal pref. there are some ppl that swear by their mx518, it all comes down to personal taste.
     
  39. DrewN

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    Yep, definitely not advertised as a gaming mouse, as it should be, but that doesn't mean that gamers might find a new Logitech mouse called "Revolution" intriguing, at the very least ;).

    Anyhow MX1000 users should be thrilled with this upgrade, especially the wheel tech, very nice. I don't like the laser engine on this mouse, though, it feels "disconnected" and "floaty" just like the MX1000. The G7 just feels much more dead on accurate to me, IMO, (EDIT) probably because I can ratchet up the G7 to 2000 dpi and then go into settings and lower the pointer speed. 800 dpi is 800 dpi, no ways around this--it just isn't going to be as accurate as a 2000dpi mouse, whatever shell it's in.
     
  40. strikeback03

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    My bluetooth MX1000 only has issues if I'm trying to use it with my HT820 headset. By itself it's fine. Of course I don't game, just use photoshop.
     
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    Thanks. Please, let me know how tall the VX is.
     
  42. huskyfan23

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    The MX1000 is also 800 dpi. I play BF2 and do quite well in it. You really don't need a mouse with huge dpi. It's just a sales gimmick.

    I used to own a G7 and the only difference was the weight. I had to lower the sensitivity because 2000 dpi is just too high. I switched back to my MX1000. One downer about the G7 is having to remove the battery for charging.
     
  43. Outrigger

    Outrigger SupaStar Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    one thing i like about the vx is that it uses a regular AA battery, and it lasts and lasts and lasts. with the g7, i was always changing batteries every 2-3 days with moderate use. i used the mx for a few hrs last night and it says i have about 18 days of usage left assuming i'm using the same amount everyday, now THATS efficient! my vx should be arriving today, can't wait to try it.

    and husky, you're right about the mx1000, just like the gaming mouse mx518, they're both only 800dpi and its enough for most people. 2000 dpi is really a lot of marketing hype. in this case, higher doesn't always mean better.
     
  44. Outrigger

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    ok, just got delivery of my vx an hour ago, got it to work w/ my work comp for now, will take it home tonight and hook up w/ my notebook, here are some pics

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    as you can see, its shorter than a standard mouse, a tad taller, but to my surprise, it feels very small in my hands and I have small hands. its perfect for a notebook. i like this over the mx for notebook in that you'll never lose your usb dongle cause you can store it in the mouse itself, and plus it uses a regular AA battery so you'll always have power provided you can pick it up anywhere. and its small! its a keeper. if I can get the wireless interference worked out w/ the mx and my logitech speakers, then I'll use the mx for the desktop.
     
  45. DrewN

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    Sorry to say, but I disagree with both of you. 2000 dpi with mouse speed lowered to acceptable levels=tangibly more accurate mouse. It's not marketing hype, at least for me. Oh well, guess I'm more sensitive to accurate mouse tracking than others.

    Switchable dpi also has it's obvious advantages. Try going into Photoshop with the lasso tool at 300 dpi, then switching to 1200 to apply broader brush strokes, at the touch of a button. Much more mouse control than a set 800 dpi.

    Oh well, to each his own :cool:
     
  46. Outrigger

    Outrigger SupaStar Reviewer NBR Reviewer

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    true, this mouse/mice isn't for everyone, and no single mouse is, it all comes down to what you use it for. I've never touched photoshop in my life and probably never will, so I don't need on the fly dpi adjustment, although that option is certainly nice to have and it IS a shame that its not on these high end mice, but its good enough for me. like i said, it all comes down to what you're using it for.
     
  47. midkhan

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    Dont even go there.
     
  48. koji126

    koji126 Notebook Guru

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    Wow it reall does look like a V400, just more curved, whats that word im trying to think of. Uganomic or something, I spelled it wrong. But seriously, im thinking of trading in my V400 for that thing, it looks great.
     
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    two years ago, i thought the laser mouse is the last improvement you can do on a mouse.. but i guess wrong.. 2 WHEELS woo.
     
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