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    Best gaming mice? Razer Mamba 4G (6400 DPI!!!)

    Discussion in 'Accessories' started by WaffleBoy, Jun 15, 2011.

  1. WaffleBoy

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    Best gaming mice? Razer Mamba 4G (6400 DPI!!!)

    What do you think about the new Razer Mamba? Will you buy it?
    Good thing I didn't buy the Roccat, The Razer looks much better!

    Buy Razer Mamba Wireless Gaming Mouse | Official Razer? Store

    It has dual laser, multi colors(More then 16Milion), better battery and etc...
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    -Gaming Grade Wireless Technology:
    *6400dpi 4G Dual Sensor System
    *Dual mode wired /wireless functionality
    *1000Hz Ultrapolling /1ms response time
    *Multi-Color Lighting
    *Up to 200 inches per second* /50g acceleration
    *Approximate size: 128mm x 70mm x 42.5mm
    *Battery Life: Approx 16 hrs (continuous gaming)

    Edit:

    Release date, USA: Juny (already here)
    Release date, worldwide: July
     
  2. ViciousXUSMC

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    I think its super overpriced and wont give you any performance that any other top tier mouse wont.

    I like it for the color change option, but there is only so much I would pay for that...

    Also is it just the mouse or the mouse & dock that do the color change?
     
  3. Tsukurimashou

    Tsukurimashou Notebook Evangelist

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    I will buy it, but it's not in pre order anymore, just when I want to place my order -.-
    EDIT: @ViciousXUSMC: I asked Razer and the dock sync the color from the mouse, so the dock will be with the same color as the mouse.
     
  4. RayDawg

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    Well, I'm assuming everyone knows that high DPI doesn't mean that a mouse is the best mouse ever, I would say yes, I'd get one, but one day in the future. For now, I'm incredibly content with my Naga Epic.
     
  5. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    WaffleBoy, you have an unfortunate habit of proclaiming "the best gaming mouse" as whichever one happens to have the highest DPI at the moment. Last month it was the Roccat Kone with 6,000 DPI, now it's the Mamba with 6,400.

    DPI really is not a defining factor in a mouse's quality these days. Unless you play with hilariously high sensitivity (we're talking less than three inches to perform a 360 degree turn in-game), then literally any gaming mouse these days will be enough for you. People who play with average to low sensitivity don't need more than 2,000 or so. Hell, the way I currently play (around 20 inches for a 360 degree rotation), the minimum useful DPI is not even 300.

    A far more important factor is USB polling rate. Most gaming mice have 1,000Hz polling/1ms response, so it's not really an issue of competition either. Pretty much the only things left are comfort (which is very personal and subjective), and overall quality (build quality, durability, software support, sensor quality, etc.). The current Mamba, for example, uses the Philips Twin-Eye laser sensor, which a lot of people don't like because it often has a Z-axis tracking problem, meaning the mouse continues to track when it is lifted vertically off of a surface. But some mice handle this better than others; I give Razer credit for managing it well with the Mamba (and presumably the Lachesis, Naga and Imperator that use the same sensor), because with Razer's firmware updates, the cursor barely moves when I lift my Mamba off of my mouse pad. I've heard stories of other mice using the same sensor (e.g. the RAT series) causing the cursor to skip hundreds of pixels at a time when lifted.

    That said, the Mamba is an excellent mouse and I couldn't be happier with mine. If what they say about this dual laser/optical sensor is true, then it could very well be one of the best innovations in mice in recent years. The color changing and improved battery certainly don't hurt either. If I have the cash to spare, I may pawn off my current Mamba and get one of these new models to see what the fuss is about, but realistically I'm quite happy with mine as it is.
     
  6. mrPico

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    I think you mean mm or cm instead of inches?
     
  7. Tsukurimashou

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    I don't care about DPI, but I had the "old" Mamba for a few days (I returned it to get the new one) and before I had the R.A.T 7, and honestly I can say it's the best mouse I ever had, this mouse is awesome, it's like if it have an integrated aimbot :q serisouly this mouse is ing accurate and smooth.
    Razer FTW! ;q
     
  8. Tyo

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    I find Raxer Naga to be the best mouse, the extra mouse buttons are defeniatelly a win over the Mamba's dpi (guessing for bragin rights) in any mmo that I played.
     
  9. Tsukurimashou

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    I don't play MMO anymore so Mamba is the best for me.
     
  10. Mastershroom

    Mastershroom wat

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    Yeah, I can see how the 12 thumb buttons would be a real asset for MMO's or any other game with a lot of binds and macros, but I primarily play shooters, and between my Mamba's 7 buttons and my n52te keypad's 15 keys, 8-way D-pad, wheel and thumb trigger, I never have a shortage of buttons.
     
  11. Romiyo

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    oh no, waffleboy beat me to creating this thread :(
    honestly, are you serious waffleboy?
     
  12. WaffleBoy

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    Lol, someone gave me this idea :) (like the Roccat)

    I think I will wait till for reviews and etc...


    lol, you could tell me :S
    someone gave me this idea... I guess it was you, no? hehe :)



    I just want to know, if I use FHD TV 32INCH, 3500 DPI will be good, or 6400DPI will be even better?
     
  13. RayDawg

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    Strange, I use 42 inch tv as a monitor and I find that my Naga Epic at 1800 DPI is very fast and can go from one side of the screen to the other. How will 3500+ DPI help you with your performance on a 32 inch screen/tv :rolleyes: ? Do you have some sort of disability that prevents you from making a full motion with your arm or wrist :D ??
     
  14. Romiyo

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    i use 1200 dpi on a full hd 15" laptop monitor, its not the DPI, i think you just cant figure out how to set the in-game sensitivity.
     
  15. kent1146

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    Most people tend to prefer high DPI & low in-game sensitivity.

    This gives you better precision, and gives you better control of the mouse's on-the-fly DPI adjustment feature.
     
  16. Nigel8600

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    I have a razer mamba, other than the really NICE packaging, I never really noticed a difference between it and a logitech wireless mouse. I have three different ones of those, all four mice all feel the same?
     
  17. WaffleBoy

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    Right now, I have MSI mouse 3500 DPI on 10 inch screen 1024x600, not fast enough to me... actually, I really want to try the Razer Mamba 4G on BO...
     
  18. crayonyes

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    wow I'm speechless. 3500 dpi too slow for 10inch ?? :eek:
     
  19. RayDawg

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    Wow! How is 3500 DPI not fast enough on a 10 inch screen :eek: ?? Do you set the mouse sensitivity on the program to the lowest possible??
     
  20. kfruit

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    Wait, so having a higher DPI mouse does make your movements more precise? It's just the higher the DPI the lower you put windows/in-game sensitivity?
     
  21. kent1146

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    Technically, yes. But in gaming, this doesn't really matter to anybody except the most hardcore gamer.

    Try this: Open a program like MS Paint, and try writing your name using a high DPI + low sensitivity setting, and then with a low DPI + high sensitivity setting.

    Do you notice a difference between either method? If yes, keep it on that setting. If no, then it doesn't matter.
     
  22. WaffleBoy

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    I trained myself to use the highest DPI on every mouse (I did it by force)
    So its not fast enough to me.
     
  23. KillerBunny

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    Trained? lol...

    Congrats on being able to move your hand micrometers. But honestly, higher dpi really doesn't make a difference on that small of a screen. If it isn't fast enough for you, try moving your hand 5 micrometers instead of 1.
     
  24. Romiyo

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    So im assuming Waffleboy wants 6400 dpi on his 10" netbook? nice...
     
  25. RayDawg

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    That or he wants 6400 DPI on his 32 inch monitor :laugh: .
     
  26. Wondering123

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    Where can I buy one of these? It's on back order on Razer's website
     
  27. KillerBunny

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    Razer's website is still the only place to order atm. Hopefully, amazon or other site will have it up soon, and cheaper.
     
  28. kfruit

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    Turns out your right, it does make a difference. Of course this was with the extremes (4000 DPI vs 125 DPI). The only reason I can't do this on windows settings is because I would have to take reset the sensitivity every time I use the track-pad or it would be horribly slow. But definitely interesting to know, I might try it in in-game settings! Thanks Kent!

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  29. Hedonist

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    It says it has 2 sensors that can be switched anytime. So the dual sensor is not working at the same time? Why would I go to older tech if I can use the laser it self assuming that I have a good mouse pad?

    6000 dpi is not an issue for me, but what the tootsie* for having 2 sensors?
    Thanks :D
     
  30. crayonyes

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    wait, which is 4000dpi+low sens and which is 125 dpi+high sens ?
    how about the 1:1 ratio (6th notch) vs low sens+higher dpi, I'm curious if it makes any difference.
     
  31. kfruit

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    The one at the top is the 125 DPI + high sensitivity (both pictures). I tried what you said and it didn't seem to make any difference from what I can tell (other then one was way to sensitive and the other barely moved).

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  32. Mastershroom

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    Laser sensors are not inherently better than optical. They're capable of higher DPI, but overall I actually prefer optical sensors.

    Optical sensors (in my experience) tend to be less picky about the types of surface they can be used on, while lasers sometimes have tracking issues on certain textures or colors of mousing surfaces.

    Optical sensors also tend to have higher perfect control speeds than lasers (i.e. the maximum physical speed you can move the mouse without any tracking errors). The original 1,800 optical DeathAdder was renowned for having the highest perfect control speed of any gaming mouse, exceeding laser mice with twice its DPI.

    Personally, I would prefer my Mamba to have the 3,500 DPI optical sensor from the DeathAdder rather than its current 5,600 DPI Twin Eye laser because the DA's optical sensor is overall a better sensor.
     
  33. crayonyes

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    no, I mean 1:1 ratio with decent dpi (your preferable setting)
    vs 4000 dpi + low sensitivity (your preferable setting)

    I know 125dpi with 1:1 ratio will make people crazy haha.
     
  34. Nascentes

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    Logitech > Razer IMO

    So, with that in mind, I'm going to stick with the G700 I think. 5700dpi is more than enough :p
     
  35. kfruit

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    Ah okay, my preferable DPI setting for 1:1 ratio is 500 :p and I can't tell the difference between doing that and putting it on low sensitivity and putting 4000 DPI. I'm pretty bad at FPS's anyway.. (I'm using the Orochi on the m11x btw)
     
  36. Hedonist

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    Oh the optical sensor is more stable than the laser...Then this 4G dual mouse sensor will give the user the choice whether he wants optical or laser at high dpi settings.

    That's cool, DA is the best selling mouse of Razer :eek: but I'm good at my Mamba at the moment :)

    Thanks!
     
  37. crayonyes

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    that is still the question mark, whether it is selectable or not, and will both sensors work at the sametime or not.

    owner(s), enlighten us please :D
     
  38. AlienTroll

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    That DPi level is a waste. It will probably be 1/2 of the price. And that battery life is meh. You should see the M705 marathon mouse wireless from Logitech. You put in 2 AA batteries and you get 3 years of battery life. DAAAAMMMMNNN!
     
  39. crayonyes

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    agree.

    less than half lol.

    can't compare gaming mouse with casual mouse for battery life. they are at different league.
     
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    I know, but mice should have an option for ultra battery saving mode, because you're wasting mouse battery levels when you're trolling someone on Youtube :D
     
  41. WaffleBoy

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    Someone already ordered it?
     
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    MX518 still rocks! Is cheap and easily one of the best gaming mouse still out there.
     
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    g700???? any one???
    i still find it the best gaming mouse, i tried the first mamba and ended up with the g700
     
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    Hey guys, I'm new to these forums, but decided to sign up when I saw the discussion of the Mamba 4G, so I could share my thoughts.

    I currently have an original Mamba and the new Mamba, and I will be sending the new one back.

    I have had some random tracking issues with the new Mamba, where it seems to momentarily change resolution and either be more or less responsive. This happens very rarely, and only for a brief moment, so I am unable to replicate this problem. It's really not much of an annoyance.

    The big problem is that the mouse easily loses the connection to the receiver. It's happened a few times just while I'm using the mouse, but it always happens when I switch the mouse from wired to wireless mode. The only way I can get the mouse to reconnect is by resetting my computer. Even disconnecting the receiver and turning the mouse on and off does nothing. Often times, when this happens, the mouse and receiver get out of sync and are different colors.

    I will be posting my review shortly at myrealitytech.com, so you can get more info there. The short version, though, is that I'd hold off on ordering this until a new firmware update is released to address these issues. I really enjoy the older Mamba, though.
     
  47. crayonyes

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    another problem? sariously razer, this sounds more and more like an experimental product.
    seems like marketing dept beats the hell out of R&D dept ,
    and release unmature product for the sake of being first. pfftt

    I wonder (or no wonder) why there hasn't been product review by top websites.
     
  48. WaffleBoy

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    We will have to wait for new drivers...
     
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    no you don't .... 6400 DPI!!! :D
     
  50. Romiyo

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    i cant wait for his review on the the new 6400 dpi Mamba using his 10 inch netbook screen. :p
     
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