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    Windows Push Notification User Service_8a623 using 16.8% CPU

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by cn555ic, Jan 6, 2019.

  1. cn555ic

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    Windows update 1809 has some really annoying features. After updating to 1809 when I played Assassin Creed Origins the game would freeze constantly and I narrowed it down to CPU being maxed out at 100%. I looked at my task bar and saw
    a process named Windows Push Notification User Service_8a623 that was using almost 17% of CPU usage. There are two of them that need to be stopped named Window Push notification service and the one above. I can disable the push notification service and it remains disabled after reboot of computer but the other one ending in “8a623” the most you can do is stop the service and after reboot the service is running again :(. I know there are many who are familiar with powershell like “thatoldguy”.
    This process is totally BS and no reason to be using so much CPU usage and if you play games which are high demanding CPU games you will run into issues with stutter and freezes. Can someone help me with a powershell command to automatically stop the service named “Windows Push Notification user service_8a623” when you boot computer. I am willing to pay for your time to team viewer into my laptop to set it up and include the power shell command on startup so it’s done automatically. Although it’s not hard to navigate to task menu and then shut off the service manually, it would be awesome for it to already be stopped automated with a power shell command
     
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    Can you post screenshots of the processes / tasks you’re talking about?

    How did you disable the first one?


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    By the way, before disabling this service I’d highly suggest troubleshooting exactly what is triggering wpns to use so much CPU cycles. On my system those are sitting at 0% CPU and less than 11MB ram combined.


    Disabling both should be the last resort imho. It’s never good to go disabling windows services as often times it can trigger a downstream issue.
    I’ve seen some of my Windows engineers do this before as a way to half ass a problem instead of properly troubleshooting and all too often it just makes a bad situation worse.

    There’s a number of ways to attack the troubleshooting angle.


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    Before you say that look at those processes throughout a session of gameplay. Those values start off at 0% on mine also and then it will start during gameplay. Keep a tab on it for like 30 minutes and I guarantee it will no longer be at 0%. Every time I know the services start I can see it in gameplay and I immediately goto taskbar services and see it at 16.8%. I have followed what Microsoft stated to uncheck all the notifications but it does absolutely nothing to prevent this service to startup. My gaming on AC Origins starts off buttery smooth and about half hour into it the game is unplayable and I immediately goto taskbar services and windows push notification is up and running!


    I know many are quite familiar with power shell. Can anyone help me with this. I have no issues compensating your time.

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    The first one windows allow you to go into properties of the service and you can choose disable and then stop the service l, but the other one in question as soon choose disable and hit apply it says that it is not allow. You can only stop that service once the other one is disable. If you don’t disable the first one, windows won’t even allow you to stop the other one “-8axxx” as it will error out. Trust me I don’t just turn things off without doing some testing to see if it effect my computer. Windows has so many BS **** that comes along with it that many would not notice.

    Holy crap. Today the push notification has changed it extension name.

    It end in _87099. WTF. The service name is constantly changing daily ? Have you guys ever seen this before. It looks as though Microsoft doesn’t want this to be off for some reason
     
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    Hey bro. I disable all sorts of Windows 10 crap services. Anything related to UWP feces and Micro$lop store is filth and if disabling the service breaks something else related to the same I consider it a blessing because I want all that stupid crap to be broken. We didn't need it before Windoze OS X and we sure as hell don't need it now.

    The service name can vary from one system to the next, or change names as you discovered. In my case it was a different name. I have it disabled.

    Run regedit using NSudo with all privileges and Trusted Installer, then change the Start DWORD to 4 (4=disabled) for both of the Windows Push Notification services (notice the key right above it in the left navigation pane), then reboot.
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    After rebooting check your services to see if that trash is running.
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    For anyone that actually cares about UWP filth, disabling those services did not break the Store cancer. I was able to update two worthless apps after rebooting with those disabled.
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    Okay I’ll try that
     
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    What do you mean. It doesn’t work?
     
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    Will see if Windoze plays Nazi and re-enables the Push Notification crap tomorrow. I have it disabled on two systems with 1809, along with a butt-load of other worthless cruft.
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    Booted up the laptop this morning and the services are still disabled! Thanks Mr Fox!


    I also added on the registry to erase the pagefile on computer shutdown just Incase there was a memory leak
     
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    Mine as well.
     
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    Push notification is helpful in Mail app,2FA and other apps that utilize microsoft cloud based push messages.
    @cn555ic If you have Mail apps w/ 2FA then its better to use App passwords to eliminate Push based services.

    Why erase page file? It simply slows down shutdown and boot up speed in re-creating page file. Its better to delete both page file and swap file using Linux every month. I use it to get rid off certain filesystem permissions which Linux can choose not to obey or bypass them. Run ISLC from wagnard to clear standby list which helps in getting rid off stuttering.
     
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    My laptop is pretty much bare minimal. Boot time and shutdown I see no difference when I have pagefile erased at shutdown. What I do see is my gaming seems to run smoother for one but it also can be disAbling Push notifications. I read erasing pagefile on shutdown helps with any memory leaks from new windows update 1809. My laptop setup doesn’t use any of those push notification services like mail on cloud so disAbling for me is not a loss. After fine tuning it to my personal preferences and tweaking it, the laptop is running better than before.
     
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    But, what if you're the type that does not want anything whatsoever "pushed" to you from the Micro$lop cloud... ever, or under any circumstances? (Mr. Fox raises his hand.)
     
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    My hands are raised also! Somehow or another I think Push notifications has some underlying function which sends back to data bases your user info for data collecting purposes. I always believe in the conspiracy theory!

    Okay. So further testing on all my games have shown great improvement in FPS. Gaming is smoother than ever, not one stuttering or freezing whatsoever! CPU temps are running lower since cpu usage is lower now without windows BS clogging it up. It is now hovering around 54-57c degrees. Before it was hovering around 60-62c and stuttering and freezing like crazy. Erasing pagefile on shutdown could have also contributed to smoother gameplay. Overall I am pleased with the windows 1809 update.

    Thanks again Mr Fox.
     
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    You're welcome. Glad I was able to help.

    I will test BFV and see if the cut-scene videos are smooth now. (Gameplay is as smooth as glass but, good Lord, those cut-scene videos have been hideously choppy.)
     
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    Also try erasing pagefile on shutdown and see how it effects the cutscenes.
     
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    Its same as GCM you use on on your phone and Google chrome.

    Does your Outlook 365 work w/o Push nptification for getting instant received mail notifications?

    Put ISLC as startup item and see if it helps. It helped me in fixing choppiness or stuttering when switching from Game scene to cut scenes or movies.

    It seems cut scenes are pre-rendered at 30 FPS. Maybe you need Freesync monitor since nvidia driver will be adding Freesync 2 support.
     
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    Well, I don't want a smartphone OS, or anything remotely resembling one, on my PC.
    Chrome gets the Fox treatment on my PC as well. My way or the highway.
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    ISLC? What is that acronym?

    The issue I see is the actual playback of the cut scene/movie clips is not smooth, not the transition from gameplay to cut scene or vice versa.
    Yes, it is rendered at 30 FPS, but the issue is not screen tearing. Watching videos at 30 FPS smoothly is not a problem, but the BFV cut scenes randomly stutter, look as if they are fluctuating playback speed and appear to drop frames without any deviation in in the 30 FPS. It seems like sloppy game dev work more than anything else. But, it could also be the fact that the frame rate is being artificially capped at 30 FPS. If they were going to do something stupid like that, it should have been 60 FPS, not 30 FPS. Games that do not limit cut scenes to 30 FPS always play smoothly for me.

    I am not interested in FreeStink or G-Stink. I've had both (my previous ASUS monitor was FreeStink and my Predator monitor is G-Stink) and don't have any use for either one. I honestly wished that neither of the monitors included those features, as I find them both to be somewhat of an inconvenience... just something extra to disable.
     
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    Thanks for the suggestion Vasudev. I looked it up and the ISLC ( Intelligent Standby List Cleaner) which I did a search seems pretty cool. If I do get into issues in the future again with stuttering and constant freezing, I will look into it. Right now my setup is running so efficient and smoothly, I don’t need to add or remove any programs to laptop because everything is now in check. Damn stupid Push Notifications caused me 3 days worth of troubleshooting!
     
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    I had to re-enable this as I use countdown timer and after changing the registry to 4, it stopped timer from working correctly (would not start countdown after setting time value).

    This tweak will be useful if WW 3 is about to start, hackers should remember this one, an NO WHISTLING lol

    Anyway, cool solution, and luckily during any game I play the push notification service does not come up in Services as processor eater.
     
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    What count-down timer?
     
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    @Vasudev

    This one, I use it when I cook rice LOL

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    Yeah I stopped using them once MSFT pulled the plug and job for alarm and timers went to my old Nokias and Android which doesn't cause drifting in clocks/time.
    Careful with UWP timers and choose TSC as timer or platform clock instead of LAPIC.
     
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    Game for about an hour or so then check. You will be surprised. It doesn’t happen immediately. It can be Ubisoft games causing this too. I haven’t tested it with other games as the current games are all Ubisoft. The Division, Assassin Creed Odessey and Origins!
     
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    Cool info, thanx!!! I only tested with games started, 5 minutes and saw nothing ... I will definitely take a good look at this. This could be very big issue for many gamers on Windows 10.
     
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    5 minutes is too short. At least 30-45 minutes of gameplay.
     
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    LOL. How important is it to enable cancer services on your system just so you can use UWP filth timer app to cook rice?

    Why not just use another timer that doesn't let your PC be screwed up with Micro$lop UWP malware?
     
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    Cook rice! Lol
     
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    Hands down, I slept on this LOL and this moroning I definitely agree !!! All registries set to 4 and my smartphone will take care of rice cooking countdowns.
     
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    I definitely think Push services isn't needed at all for alarms and clocks app.
     
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    The only issue with disabling the windows push notification is when you get a windows update which happened yesterday to my machine, the tiles can’t be changed. I removed them and they would come back to before I even touched them. Anyone know the location where you have the setup of the tile start up menu is? I am making changes and it is not sticking. After a shuttting down the computer it’s back again. I think I will try a system restore and see if it works.

    For me disabling it was pure joy as my laptop and gaming are smooth as silk afterwards.
     
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    And, it is still remains disabled for me as well. Another skanky Windoze OS X problem bites the dust.
     
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    Last week my 13r3 Ethernet port decided to take a crap. Dell changed it out to a refurbished MB and for some reason after the tech was done my OS changed back to 1809 which I was on 1903 prior to change. I updated it to 1903 and afterwards every time I started the computer I would get a black screen. The only way to make it boot correctly was to do restart and everything booted normal again. This was the case every time I started computer. I troubleshooted all the fixes Microsoft recommended and it didnt work. After a day of troubleshooting with no success I went back into my task manager and saw the same issue with window push notification using 16.8 of my cpu usage!! I turned off the service and would you believe that solved the issue of the black screen! Lmao. I don’t know why this service caused the black
    Screen boot. I then went back into registry and turned off all the useless services Microsoft has running. Computer is working again flawlessly and my cpu temps are back to how I had it with the old MB. Anyone reading this thread should disable this service because many will not even know their cpu is being used for no reason. 16.8% usage can cause games if you use laptop for gaming to have stutters and sudden FPS drops