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    Will the alienware 15R4 and 17R5 get the new GPU's before the end of the year ?

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by jerebwic, Aug 18, 2018.

  1. jerebwic

    jerebwic Newbie

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    Hello everyone,

    I am looking forward to buy a new alienware laptop in a few months, probably in december (christmas).

    I currently have a dell 7577 (The IPS screen makes me sick 24/7), with the 1060maxQ; is it worth waiting for the new gen of GPUs ? Will the performance gap be important ?

    Thanks for your help / opinion :)
     
  2. Muezick

    Muezick Notebook Evangelist

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    The only person who can decide if it's worth it is you.

    You're missing half the equation though, since we don't know the performance metrics of the new generation yet, all we have are rumors and those are a terrible way to predict performance.

    I'd say at least wait a month, but it seems you are already going to be waiting until december? By then, we should have plenty of information on the new Turing RTX GPUs and it will be very easy to make a decision then for yourself. If the alienware line up has refreshed and has them in it then, obviously buy the newest thing. I don't think we'll see that until after the holiday season though. Just a hunch. The alienware wikipedia doesn't have exact release dates but it looks like they got 10-series gpus about 6 months after desktops got them.
     
  3. jerebwic

    jerebwic Newbie

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    Thanks for the advice :D
     
  4. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    Someone high up of Gigabyte said that you shouldn't expect new Geforce model laptops before the end of this year. ALso from the current rumors the new generation tends to be quite hot so I think laptop manufacturers need time to implement these as well.
     
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  5. judal57

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    man wait a little bit, we will see if the performance gap is going to be big or not, also the price will drop with the next generation
     
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  6. Muezick

    Muezick Notebook Evangelist

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    got some sauce on that my friend? I am very curious about these house fires.
     
  7. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    Go through all the currently leaked info at wccftech.com

    They seem to be more demanding than previois gen.
     
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  8. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Maybe its Fermi reborn.
     
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  9. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    I dont know what to think of it yet. Awaiting the presentation of tomorrow. Might buy a 2080 for in my graphics amp. The sounds about the 2070 arent so great. Seems it doesnt surpass the 1080TI. While the 1070 did surpass the 980TI and the 970 the 780TI.

    Or I might just skip this generation alltogether. Got a nicely running 1070 in my AW15 now with good temps. Maybe should just be happy for once :D.

    These are my current temps without using the graphics amp. After 1 hour of Destiny 2.
     

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    Without competitors, GPU upgrade gain will be like Intel CPU. If AMD can fight head to head with Navi or whatever, then green team might re-consider.
     
  11. Muezick

    Muezick Notebook Evangelist

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    Turing looking like a pascal rebrand. Same process. Higher clocks ,more power. House Fires 2.0 here we go.
     
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    What is most worrying is the significantly higher TDP of these new cards... I have doubts of how well it'll translate to mobile.
     
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  13. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Mobile graphics will get TDP as before. Now with less performance vs. the desktop cards. Back to old days but with an Second more crippled variant... Max-Q
     
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    As someone who wants to upgrade in the near future, if laptop versions of the RTX cards aren't coming out anytime soon but you still want to utilize one, what's the best option?

    Get a 17 R5 and use the graphics amplifier with an RTX card? Ditch getting a laptop and just get a desktop instead? Or just wait?
     
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    If you have something good now then just wait. I think alienware will do a chassis redesign for RTX.
     
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    I actually don't--my current laptop is pretty old. I had an AW 17R4 and then R5 for a while, but ended up getting refunded for it because they could never give me a unit without a screen free of dead pixels. :(
     
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    I tried a 1060 max q and it’s totally worth the wait especially if you couple it with a 144hz screen. The games are buttery smooth compared to my 1060.
     
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    You had issues with a r4 and a r5? Still willing to wait for revision and go for a third? Think I’d cut ties and move on.

     
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    Yeah, it was pretty nuts. The issues were ALL screen related. Backlight bleed and even worse, dead pixels in 4 replacement screens in the R4 and then over two R5s. It was a customer service nightmare.
     
  20. rinneh

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    Backlight bleed is very ahrd to avoid these days. Dead pixels are rare though. But if you got moderate lightbleed, there isnt a lot you can do about that. Each and every machine that I saw from the past 2 years has it to some extent and reviews point this out as well on NBC.
     
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    It was pretty unreal. Here are some of the dead pixel issues I had on two different screens:

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    I really can't see that being the case with the TDP being 285W. That's bat sh!t crazy in a laptop...

    It'll be gimped like @Papusan said... And then probably not much of a performance increase on the 10 series. Might be worth waiting until it does come out tho, 10 series cards will be reduced
     
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    Mobile versions aren’t even announced yet. I know they are “the same” but they are different still when they put them in notebooks. No announcements of new notebooks yet so I doubt we will see new notebooks with new gou’s till after the new year.
     
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