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    Updating Intel ME Firmware on 15 r2/17 r3 or possibly other BGAs as well

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by Vasudev, Feb 19, 2018.

  1. Vasudev

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    @VICKYGAMEBOY @Papusan @HunterZ0 @rinneh @0lok
    Proceed with caution, I'm not responsible nor any members associated here, if you brick your PC. So be careful!
    Changelog:
    26 Feb 2k18: Added a step to remind users to clean Temp files and several minor changes.

    10 Mar: Added MEI Info result.
    Added HunterZ0's method.

    First and foremost use MEInfoWin.exe from Win-raid and proceed to next step below. If you see LocalFWupdate to be enabled then you can straight away patch the firmware w/o any issue. Example screenshot of MEinfo:
    meinfo.PNG

    For people who're affected by MEI Offline issue after upgrading Dell BIOS follow @Mofoist thread on how to bring it online and save your PC. ME Offline after BIOS Update fix

    For those who like to upgrade your MEI_FW to fix Intel SA00086.
    1. Uninstall existing MEI driver completely using revo or similar
    2. Reboot
    3. I hope everybody downloaded latest MEI SW from Dell, if so, unpack it using 7-zip or winrar and you should get SetupME.exe along with few files
    4. Follow this guide https://gist.github.com/CHEF-KOCH/15ef90bb4c7ac7aa7923de625c98cd41
    5. For Those who prefer minimal MEI driver install, follow step 6 & 7. Otherwise simply run the above linked Dell MEI driver directly and proceed to step 8.
    6. Open cmd or powershell in elevated mode and type the first cmd:
      Code:
      SetupME.exe -tcs -nodrv
    7. Don't close the cmd prompt window yet since we need to type some cmds to install the driver only version:
      Code:
      SetupME.exe -drvonly
    8. Clean Temp files using W10 disk cleanup Or CCleaner Or Bleachbit or Dism++ or ASC or similar tools.
    9. After that, download Prema ME11 tool
    10. Alternative download link for FW and System Tools
    11. Unpack ME11 tool with Password: premamod.com and open cmd prompt or powershell as admin pointing to ME11 folder location. For example look at the screenie below:[​IMG]
    12. Type the cmd:
      Code:
      FWUpdLcl64.exe -f Data.bin -forcereset
    13. Make sure you're connected to AC power. This is the final result I got. [​IMG]
    14. For those who are seeing warnings related to "intel capability licensing service client is obsolete" install the full MEI driver and use cmd prompt in admin mode to navigate to this location:
      Code:
      cd C:\Program Files\Intel\iCLS Client
      
      Type this command IntelPTTEKRecertification.exe
    Hope this helps everybody.
    Lastly, I would like to thank @Prema for allowing me to use his MEI FW tool provided everybody follows T&C's present in Prema's website.

    Note: I observed issues like VICKYGAMEBOY had where, TPm would show Code 10 error after Clearing the TPM via Windows. I had to uninstall the driver and reset the BIOS to default and had to Program Main,Boot and NVRAM using AFUWinx64 just to get TPM device up and running. And one more thing SA0086 Intel's tool was giving a warning saying re-key was needed. Re-key will not be shown if you followed my guide. Hopefully fingers crossed.
    @VICKYGAMEBOY Please test it.
    If you guys aren't clearing TPM then I feel TPM device will be working perfectly. As always, if you're out of warranty or afraid don't try this.
    I leave @VICKYGAMEBOY to become the tester. Even I'm out of warranty and successfully flashed it with zero issues.
    Bonus or easter egg: Booting to W10 is slightly faster say 1-3 secs and initialises very quickly. Do note I used Prema's generic MEFW rather than Dell's firmware. By doing this, all future MEFW update can be done locally because it is enabled and not locked by BIOS.
    Thanks to Chef Koch from MDL forum and Github gist.
    EDIT: Guide updated and typos fixed.

    Added:
    -Added Mofoist's ME recovery method.
    @HunterZ0 method in case, my method doesn't work. I Cleared NVRAM using AMI Aptio BIOS Flash tool before upgrade, maybe that fixed it and for me, MEFW update was still locked but was able to flash after typing the cmds and hitting enter keys in quick succession.

    These are the methods HunterZ0 did to upgrade the FW:
    ----Start of HunterZ0 method-------

    1. Turn off laptop, open the back, take out RAM, short CLRP1 pins to clear CMOS.


    For this step, you may want to find a YouTube video on how to replace the RAM in an Alienware.

    Power the laptop down and unplug the AC adapter.

    Turn the laptop over and take the 2 screws out of the largest panel in the middle, then pop the panel out. Remove the RAM chips one at a time by pulling the retaining clips outward just slightly, then sliding the RAM out of its slot.

    Toward the right side of the RAM area you should see 2 tiny metal dots accompanied by the text "CLRP1". Use something metal to create an electrical connection between the two pins. I used a flat-head tip from a micro-screwdriver kit, but a wire would work too.

    Put the RAM back in, and reinstall the cover, then plug the AC power back in if desired.

    If you go straight into the BIOS setup (mash F2 repeatedly starting right after you poke the power button), you should notice that the time is 00:00:00.

    2. Boot into BIOS setup and make sure everything is correct (especially RAID versus AHCI mode). Save and exit.

    For this step you may want to take pictures of your BIOS settings with a cellphone or similar. At this point my only customization is changing the disk controller to AHCI mode because I don't care about RAID. Booting in the wrong mode may make your OS cranky.

    3. Go to win-raid thread and get the appropriate Intel ME firmware (for Alienware 17 R3 it's probably Intel CSME 11.8 Consumer PCH-H Firmware v11.8.50.3448, but look it over and decide for yourself)

    Here's the win-raid thread, which talks about all the pieces you need and provides links: https://www.win-raid.com/t596f39-Intel-Management-Engine-Drivers-Firmware-amp-System-Tools.html

    What you need:
    - MEI driver. You should be able to install the Consumer one from step A3. It looks like you already have MEInfo, so use that after to make sure that MEI Driver Version is at least 11.7. You may need to uninstall your current drivers from "Programs and Features" and/or perform a repair install to get it to stick. Don't worry about the command line junk from this forum, it's useless voodoo unless you're wanting to install a minimal number of pieces of the software (possible exception is the re-keying procedure covered on the win-raid forum thread).
    - ME firmware. You'll have to figure out which one you need from list B1. I'm pretty sure that Alienware 17 R3 needs "Intel CSME 11.8 Consumer PCH-H Firmware" due to the fact that MEInfo reports an 11.0 version followed by an H. I have an Alienware 17 R3, and that version is working for me.
    - Flashing tool. This is FWUpdLcl in the FWUpdate folder tree in the same toolset that includes MEInfo.

    4. Use FWupdcl to flash the update

    - Extract the ME firmware .bin to the same folder as the FWupdcl version you plan to use (under WIN or WIN64 probably).
    - Open a Command Prompt (cmd.exe) as Administrator (Start->cmd.exe in search box->right-click the cmd.exe icon and do Run as admin->click Yes on UAC prompt)
    - Change to the folder that FWupdcl is in (cd "\some\path\to\stuff")
    - Run this command, replacing FWUpdLcl64.exe with the specific name of the FWupdcl flavor you're using, and Data.bin with the name of the ME bin you want to flash:
    FWUpdLcl64.exe -f Data.bin

    5. Reboot

    This one is self-explanatory. Wait until the flash completes and then reboot. Run MEInfo again to verify the update is installed, then run the vulnerability checker to verify that you're no longer vulnerable.
    ----End of HunterZ0 method-------

    Beta or untested method: Really I didn't test this method at all!
    1. Download AMI BIOS Flash for Aptio V and accept their license agreement https://ami.com/en/?Aptio_V_AMI_Firmware_Update_Utility.zip
    2. Use cmd prompt or powershell as admin. Point to AW BIOS EXE path and type AW_XX.xx.EXE /writeromfile
    3. Copy the rom file to unzipped AMI BIOS under folder AFUWInx64
    4. Open cmd prompt in current directory and use these cmds:
      Code:
      AFUWINx64.EXE alienware_15r2_17r3_XX.rom /P /B /N /REBOOT
    5. Keyboard and mouse will be locked and fan will run at full speed
    This is untested so you guys are own your own if you brick your mobo on other Vendor's mobo like MSI,Asus etc.
     
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    Removed..
     
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    @Vasudev @Papusan @judal57 here you go guys, the bait master confirms that there is no issue updating to latest Prema ME firmware on latest 1.4.4 BIOS, i dint even revert back to 1.3.12 or used CLRP methods, just install dell me driver, i suggest users to do the simple click and run instead of drv only commands, but that totally depends on u guys, and also i dint use forcereset commands, first try running the prema tool, with admin rights, it took less then 20seconds to flash the firmware, the initial boot time was same as before though, no boost in performance whats so ever, just my case on 1.4.4, ur mileage may vary. i did not get any TPM 2.0 device issue, or windows key issue, so far no issue, except the tool shows rekey required.. now its rest of u guys to test it on 1.4.4.. and let me know if u face any issues.. IntelMEupdated.png
     
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    Looks like you were lucky guy who had LocalMEupdate enabled, that's why you were able to flash it.
    Run PKTTxxx.exe i powershell admin mode to get updated re-key from Intel. Its located here C:/Program Files (x86)/Intel/iCLS Client/
     
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    out of 10 motherboard only this motherboard and one more had localme enabled, yes forcereset works, im testing on reboots, sleep, shutdown, seems like everything works just fine, only way to find out for bugs is to reinstall OS again with clean driver sets... i might do it tomorrow.. btw that crappy 800mhz throttle is still there, it is BD PROC.. only god knows what triggers that, a faulty sensor, cause PCH temps triggers throttle at various C points, so that shows something else is triggering the BDPROC as well.. i already repasted properly along with artic 6wmk thermal pads.. just 2 days back.. is there a way to check RAM temp.. lol.. it gets super toasty hot as well.. and btw post me ur current driver version numbers once again.. so ill do the same and check for any symtopms..
     
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    I recommend you do a BIOS reset using dell usb diag I mentioned. It will force wipe CMOS and starts anew. Just like Phone OS reset.
    Wait for RS4 to do a clean install.
     
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    for past 1month im not doing any reinstalls due to issues with ISP, from 100MBPS to 2MBPS fiber.. rofl.. and half the time network issues.. Yes will do the CMOS clear now.. and see how it goes.. brb
     
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    Just updated my bios with the latest for the 15R3. It is supposed to fix the vulnerabilities. But havent tested it yet.
     
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    hows ur gaming performance, did u check ur pch temps ?? no throttles at all, yes the 15 r3 bios will have the spectre fix, and they have intel ME firmware update separate for SA0086 issue, just update both do a CMOS clear after updating.. good luck
     
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    In general the performance is good. Tested it with R6 Siege, Assassins Creed Origins, PUBG and BF1. Assassins Creed has a very high CPU usage though. Also heats up my laptop the most but the framerates are good. General windows use as well. At this time not using TPM so I cannot comment on that. Hard to measure if performance has been lowered because of the patch. Because these games are so variable because of the sandbox nature of these games.
     
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    For RAM temps @VICKYGAMEBOY use ePSA to test them. Use single or dual layer arctic 0.5mm pads.
    If you are able to mod BIOS, then you can get RAM chips temps.
     
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    @Vasudev Question mate. If you update the ME FW using this guide and then dell will release a new bios with the updated ME FW update. How would it affect the laptop if you update to the new bios(Hoping for a proper fix bios) that dell will release with a updated ME FW?
     
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    If its same MEFW then it won't update.
     
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    msi laptops have this enabled too.
     
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    my alienware laptop shows im not spectre protected..
     
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    If you have new microcode then OS level fixes are disabled according to new Windows update to stop sudden reboots.
     
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    Ah, so wait for an update then
     
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    Windows 10 should have updated with the fixes, its very small 650KB update.
     
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    For the spectre issue?
     
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    spectre & meltdown
     
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    Im pretty sure i have installed the update before but still says im not spectre protected but in meltdown iam, have a link for that update?
     
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    you need new microcode present in new bios.
     
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    Yea i got a bios update yesterday but still not spectre protected
     
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    c2 microcode has spectre exploit protection.
     
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    Run InSpectre tool v6 [As recommended by Intel to observe your status + able to disable Meltdown and Spectre vulnerability patches].
     
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    @VICKYGAMEBOY I am doing this instead of reflashing.. LOL.. question: When I do step 6 the setup exe will run.. I did install ME.. Then on step 7 setup window will pop up asking if i need to repair? is that suppose to happen?
     
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    Guess it doesn't work for me..
    1st screenshot is me trying step 6 and step 7. weeeeeeeee.jpg
    2nd screenshot was just installing ME driver straight away..
    weeeeeeeee1.jpg

    Guess I'll have to wait for the new bios.. Time to play.. LOL
     
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    @0lok Try using the cmd on SetupME.exe
    SetupME.exe -tcs -nodrv
    Even I encountered the same issue when LocalME Update was disabled.
    After that use FWupdcl64 -f Data.bin -forcereset
     
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    You need to uninstall existing MEI drivers and tools using revo or Control panel/Settings>Apps-> Uninstall Intel MEI.
     
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    This thread will kept alive for a week so, copy-paste the instructions from this thread who needs them for future reference. I'm locking/removing this thread. I will ask Mods personally to remove this thread.
     
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    why you want to remove, let it be there..
     
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    Why? Because of the silly guy? Let it be as it is. Update if needed and not delete it.
     
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    Ok thanks. I'll put a option to use Dell's MEFW for 15r3 incase somebody don't like generic FW modules.
     
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    @Vasudev just out of curiousity whats the difference between using FWupdcl64 -f Data.bin -forcereset command in CMD vs Running MEtool.exe of prema?
     
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    CMD reboots instantly after FW flashing is complete whereas Prema's Tool gives you the control and you can manually restart/shutdown at ur time.
    EDIT:
    Prema tool flashes w/o forcereset.
     
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    Vavsudev:
    Never listen to kids with low rep and barely any posts that all they do is cry and flame and harass helpful people, when they barely even know how to service their own laptop.
    Some people here really appreciate your work.
     
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    I found a peculiar edge case. You need to cleanup temp files for flashing to be fast with deadly precision.
    Just updated @judal57 15 r1 with the same method. I also updated my older lenovo's.
     
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    I will add MEInfo to get an idea if LocalME update is enabled or not.
     
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    mine is update, im just asking for others.. hope they come up with newer firmware including BIOS update.. im playing assasins creed origins, best game to hammer both GPU and CPU.. almost 70-90% workload all time on cores.. keeeping it on Performance mode on BIOS.. gives better fan speed + overall better system temps and guess what no throttle watsover.. played for 5 hours straight.. 0 throttle.. full 3.1ghz turbo all time..6300RPM is pretty loud tho.. nothing like MSI laptop which my friend owns.. thats like rocket
     
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    Normally 15 r2 cpu fans max out at 6000 rpm and GPu at 5900 rpm. How can you get more than that!
     
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    mine maxes out at 6400RPM on CPU and 6100 ON GPU.. hehe on performance mode.. same like BIOS flashing speed..
     
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    Oh I forgot! HWINFO allows 7000 rpm on mine on manual mode.
     
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    but it only goes upto 6600 max.. atleast it increases airflow inside ur crammmed bottom case..no wonder my internal temps pretty good..
     
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    I receiver error "Error 8719: Firmware update cannot be initiated because Local Firmware update is disabled".

    From MEInfo I get:

    Code:
    Intel(R) MEInfo Version: 11.8.50.3434
    Copyright(C) 2005 - 2017, Intel Corporation. All rights reserved.
    
    
    
    Intel(R) ME code versions:
    
    BIOS Version                                 1.4.4
    MEBx Version                                 0.0.0.0000
    GbE Version                                  Unknown
    Vendor ID                                    8086
    PCH Version                                  31
    FW Version                                   11.0.0.1194 H
    Security Version (SVN)                       1
    LMS Version                                  Not Available
    MEI Driver Version                           11.7.0.1045
    Wireless Hardware Version                    Not Available
    Wireless Driver Version                      Not Available
    
    FW Capabilities                              0x31111940
    
            Intel(R) Capability Licensing Service - PRESENT/ENABLED
            Protect Audio Video Path - PRESENT/ENABLED
            Intel(R) Dynamic Application Loader - PRESENT/ENABLED
            Intel(R) Platform Trust Technology - PRESENT/ENABLED
    
    Re-key needed                                False
    Platform is re-key capable                   True
    TLS                                          Disabled
    Last ME reset reason                         Global system reset
    Local FWUpdate                               Disabled
    BIOS Config Lock                             Enabled
    GbE Config Lock                              Enabled
    Host Read Access to ME                       Disabled
    Host Write Access to ME                      Disabled
    Host Read Access to EC                       Disabled
    Host Write Access to EC                      Disabled
    SPI Flash ID 1                               EF4018
    SPI Flash ID 2                               Unknown
    BIOS boot State                              Post Boot
    OEM ID                                       00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
    Capability Licensing Service                 Enabled
    OEM Tag                                      0x00000000
    Slot 1 Board Manufacturer                    0x00000000
    Slot 2 System Assembler                      0x00000000
    Slot 3 Reserved                              0x00000000
    M3 Autotest                                  Disabled
    C-link Status                                Enabled
    Independent Firmware Recovery                Disabled
    EPID Group ID                                0xF93
    LSPCON Ports                                 None
    5K Ports                                     None
    OEM Public Key Hash FPF                      ABEBC4307D5450DD7A66969A7F6A0EA9F470CEDEC6A1FB3011D8603D8459C9F8
    OEM Public Key Hash ME                       ABEBC4307D5450DD7A66969A7F6A0EA9F470CEDEC6A1FB3011D8603D8459C9F8
    ACM SVN FPF                                  0x2
    KM SVN FPF                                   0x0
    BSMM SVN FPF                                 0x0
    GuC Encryption Key FPF                       0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
    GuC Encryption Key ME                        0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
    
                                                 FPF                      ME
                                                 ---                      --
    Force Boot Guard ACM                         Enabled                  Enabled
    Protect BIOS Environment                     Enabled                  Enabled
    CPU Debugging                                Enabled                  Enabled
    BSP Initialization                           Enabled                  Enabled
    Measured Boot                                Enabled                  Enabled
    Verified Boot                                Enabled                  Enabled
    Key Manifest ID                              0x1                      0x1
    Enforcement Policy                           0x3                      0x3
    PTT                                          Enabled                  Enabled
    PTT Lockout Override Counter                 0x0
    EK Revoke State                              Not Revoked
    PTT RTC Clear Detection FPF                  0x0
    The problem is obviously "Local FWUpdate Disabled".

    Is there anything I can do?
     
  50. Vasudev

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    Some options in MEIInfo is quite different from I have. Even I faced same issue but BIOS recovery and BIOS reset using usb worked for me. http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...3-owners-lounge.797884/page-674#post-10665979
     
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