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    So when are we getting Area51m reviews?

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by Zellio2013, Jan 27, 2019.

  1. Zellio2013

    Zellio2013 Notebook Guru

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    I'm truly interested in battery life most of all. Yeah okay, probably lack thereof, but I'd still like to partially use it portably

    I have a 15" 2017 macbook pro that's pretty much maxed out with decent battery life for those wondering

    I want to replace an alienware 13r3 oled that's maxed out (well, 1.5 tb of ssd storage) with something that at least gets somewhat close battery wise
     
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    If you expect a gaming laptop to give you any decent battery life then you're looking at the wrong category of laptops!

    The batteries in gaming laptops are just considered as a backup in the case of power loss or to move from one place to another without having to turn off the laptop. The battery simply cannot provide enough juice to the power hungry CPU/GPU in gaming laptops.

    You might get away with an hour to an hour and a half of browsing the web / watching YouTube on battery provided you are on the power saver mode

    Otherwise, look at thin and light laptops, those still give you good performance in gaming and have decent battery life like the MSI GS65 or GS75
     
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    If I was to guess, 40 min AAA gaming or 4-4.5hrs browsing on the 144hz or 4.5-5hrs on the 60 Hz.
     
  5. Zellio2013

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    Intel chips have their own gpus that can be switched to for light tasks, and this thing has a huge battery. There’s no way it’s going to perform like a desktop replacement from 2003......,,,,
     
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    While that is good logic to follow for a laptop cpu, the Area 51-m is using desktop cpu's and desktop grade gpu's. There is no confirmation that I'd found that the Area 51-m uses optimus. If it doesn't then it is always using the 2070 or 2080 even at the desktop. So my guess is 2 hours.

    Something to keep in mind is just because optimus exists doesn't mean it just magically works. The Acer Triton 700 and the Asus Zephyrus gx501 ((First gen)) straight up did not have it. So the Area 51-m having it seems like wishful thinking.
     
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    Not always, I was able to switch between the nVIDIA GPU and Intel GPU on my previous MSI GT73VR Titan Pro but with my current MSI GT75 Titan, MSI decided to disable the Intel GPU completely.

    Again, if you're buying an Alienware Area 51-M expecting any kind of decent battery life, be prepared for a major disappointment. Even the Alienware reps said in their initial videos that this laptop's battery life is horrendous.
     
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    It’s not even worth it to play with laptop unplugged as the performance is abysmal.
     
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    At 10:17 in this review of the Clevo P750TM1 he mentions it only gets around 2 1/2 hours of watching youtube. This laptop only has an 82 watt hour battery. And this laptop has a 9900k in it. So that's a good example of what to expect for the Area 51m.
     
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    Straight from the horse's mouth - Pick up the video at 4:46 or so (from Joe Olmsted, Director of AW Product Group Engineering) regarding battery expectations of the Area 51m



     
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    dude, you are looking at the wrong laptop for best battery life. try the max q variants. also alienware laptops have never included a MUX switch like those found in older MSI GT laptops where you can disable one GPU and use the other with a restart. this is an excellent feature and i dont know why not many manufacturers are keen on including it.
     
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    All I'm interested in is battery life when using only the intel cpu and gpu, I'm not asking for a 24 hour battery

    I have a macbook pro 2017 15" that gets decent enough battery life and an Alienware 13r3 with oled. If this thing can get a battery life that's 'close enough' to the r3 (which already isn't exactly great) I'd highly consider replacing it
     
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    plain and simple. Area-51m will not give u good battery life. you'll be lucky if it can even touch 2 hours.

    got for H class CPU and Max Q GPU for best battery life.

    And like i said, the absence of MUX switch means you are NOT able to use the igpu. period. hope you understand
     
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    Expect up to 2 hour battery life on the Area-51M

    My M18xR2 says Hi with it's 3-4 hour battery life, max brightness, no screen dim, no display timeout, constant usage. :D

    If Clevo and AW had used a MUX switch and allowed us to switch to iGPU only, we'd be getting very good battery life.
     
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    Sixty to 90 minutes according to AW - http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/so-when-are-we-getting-area51m-reviews.827186/#post-10854397


     
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    This. Even if the battery lasts half a day, the performance is rancid.
     
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    Like I mentioned in my earlier post you may not be able too. Just because the Cpu has a built in GPU doesn't mean you can use it. The manufacturer making the laptop has to enable it. And on Desktop replacement laptops like this one they tend to not bother. So comparing it to a macbook pro or alienware 13 is like comparing a four cylinder car to an eight cylinder truck and wanting to get good gas mileage doing highway driving. It's just not gonna happen.

    If you want good battery life and want an alienware then consider the m15 or m17. Based on your wants the Area 51m is not something that would serve you well at all.
     
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    According to the specifications the iGPU is going to be connected to the TB3 port on the side. This is the same way the old 17R4 / 15R3 worked, even if you had optimus disabled and the internal display directly connected to the nVidia GPU. If you really need battery life but still want a DTR get something like an i5 surface pro to carry around with the Area 51m. I carry a tablet with my WT75 and it doesn't add much noticeable weight to my backpack.
     
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    That's a good suggestion. Personally the only reason I plan on moving my Area 51m is when I go on vacation and want to take it with me. Or if it's a nice day out and I want to play some games on my front porch. Lol.
     
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    I would personally just open windows 7 in parallels on my macbook pro than do that
     
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    generic review. lets wait for the real reviews, lol.
     
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    TBH I was expecting worse. I'm guessing if you disable hyperthreading (Or just get a 9700k) it could get near the 3 hour range, which would be pretty damn good. I'm probably gonna wait and hope they add a zen 2 to one of these though (Or maybe a big sale...)
     
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    Purchased my area51m from hidevolution, Ted made the buying experience super easy and was awesome at assisting me with the mods, highly recommend Ted! I will be posting my benchmarks when i get the laptop in :)