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    Simple Question about new Area 51-M laptop

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by lokoroxbr, Apr 13, 2019.

  1. lokoroxbr

    lokoroxbr Notebook Consultant

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    Hi guys.

    Im going to US in july, and i would like to know a little more about the new AREA 51-m laptop, from users that already have it.

    I saw the pinned topic, but there are more than 700 pages and i'd like a straight answer. So here are:

    1) How is the temperatures of Area 51-m ? Does it need repaste or the new cooling system + dell's factory paste works fine?

    I ask this because i have a 15 R3 laptop, and i had to repaste it, more than once. I dont use LM since i move around the notebook, plus i live in Brazil, which temperatures in summer are around 35c and winter from 12c to 26c (ambient temp).
    And as a expensive and top laptop, it should not have problems with temps...

    2) Did you owners have any problems, such as factory defects (screen, keyboard, battery, etc)?

    3) Finally: since i have a Samsung SSD 960 PRO 1tb, im planning to reset it and add to the new one. No problems right?

    I guess this is it guys. My main concern is about the temps and repaste (i wouldnt like to do repaste in a brand new laptop and risk to lose the warrant). Thanks for the time and answers :)
     
  2. ssj92

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    Highly depends on which config you are looking for.

    If you don't mind undervolting, the 9900K works fine at stock, temps with mid 80s to low 80s under high loads.

    The 9700K will run a little cooler.

    RTX 2080 temps are fine for most people.

    Repaste will definitely depend as some users have good and some have bad factory paste jobs.

    Only defect we can think of right now is the GPUs burning out. If you order by July I'm sure they'll have those issues sorted out hopefully.

    Samsung SSD will work fine, I'm using 970 Evo Plus 1TB right now.
     
  3. Spartan@HIDevolution

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    Temps are great even at stock. Defects that I personally encountered and a few other members here did is flying keys. Like the moment I got it, I was typing and boom, the
    U key popped out and would never go back into place no matter what I tried so I got a replacement. Other than that, it's the best machine you could get right now.
     
  4. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    It will have more or less same issues like 6820HK and 1070. CPU temps will be higher than usual just like HK chip.
    Hybrid Battery boost is present.
    I'd say not much of a difference will be noticed from 15r3 and A51M. Well, you can certainly buy 2667MHz 16GBx2(32GB) for 15 r3 and get a boost in RAM benching and overall system responsiveness.
     
  5. lokoroxbr

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    So no problems with temps right?

    Because thats was the main issue i was worried. As i said, i wouldnt like to buy a new latop and have to respaste and lose warranty
     
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    Nope, didn't have to do a thing, I didn't even undervolt. Just don't go running synthetic stress test which put abnormal load on the CPU causing it to overheat then you would need to repaste. But If you use your laptop normally, playing games, opening programs, browsing, watching movies, then it never overheats. Heck, I only hear the fans spin up during gaming otherwise the laptop is silent.
     
  7. lokoroxbr

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    Hey Vasu long time mate :) Hum, i see... i asked because my 15R3 i had to repaste as we talked a lot, and whenever i play a game my temps go 90c...Also, is the AW the best one?? I saw a MSI i guess, but doesnt know the model and if the temps are okay.

    Yeah i mean, my usage is gaming, work, videos on youtube, netflix, etc. I'll see if i buy it then, or maybe switch to desktop perhaps... really dont know, because i move a lot with laptop, and desktop wont be able to.
     
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  8. Vasudev

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    You won't see a difference in performance between 15 r3 and A51M if you're having ambient temps >35C. Specs look good on paper but practically you won't even feel the difference between 15r3 and A51m. A51m will spike to 90C or more.
     
  9. lokoroxbr

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    so it is better to improve my 15r3?

    I liked because the inovation of upgrading hardware.

    Also do you think, maybe, it is better to switch do a desktop instead? Or another brand of lap, such as MSI?

    I saw the Alienware Area 51 desktop, and it seems nice, and i think it has water cooling system, so temps are low right (like 60c) ?
     
  10. Vasudev

    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    You think upgrading hardware is cheap? Its not! Everything is proprietary and expensive, it will almost close to new laptop's price.
    Forget AW garbage, even desktop isn't upgradeable w/o BIOS update which only lasts like 1 yr. Do an assembled desktop and save costs. Closed loop cooling from EKWB should be somewhat easy, I think your dad will help you out in assembling custom Threadripper or Intel systems.
     
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  11. etern4l

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    It's not really a laptop, it's a rather quite large in comparison desktop replacement. Do you require any battery life, since in that case you would be going from hero (AW15) to almost zero.
     
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    Its actually the smallest 17" desktop replacement. And weighs the same as the 15" DTRs from clevo and MSI.

    As of now the big limiting factor is it requires 2 PSU bricks to power normally. It throttles to 2060 max Q level on 1 PSU.
     
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    I'm sure it's a leading desktop replacement device. Obviously at that price point one can just get a way more powerful, configurable, customisable and upgradable desktop if mobile use is of no concern.
     
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  14. lokoroxbr

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    thanks mate :)
     
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