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Have your screen turn off after 5 min of not being used. Hide the task bar. Have 2 or more different desktop backgrounds that rotate on 5 minute loops (slideshow).
Really the only thing you don't want to do is have it constantly on with the same image. Reports of burn in on phones and monitors are from people who do that.
Switch to Dark Mode via settings app and you can reduce burn-ins. Settings > Personalisation > Colors, Click one of the radio buttons saying Dark or Light.
I guess my biggest worry would be everyday usage, particularly using Microsoft word which has a constant display. Do you think this would be a problem? I know ill be using word quite frequently.
Thats not really how it works with oled. If you have multiple more dark spots on the screen than light spots. Those lighter spots will wear out faster thus causing brightness loss in those spots. If the brightness loss is contained to for example 1 icon it will become burn in. Till now I am not a fan of Oled since all my oled phones have quite severe burn in.
I have a almost 3 year old Samsung OLED phone without any trace of burn in, setting the phone to go dark faster and changing the background constantly did the trick I assume.
Also the brightness loss of one of these pixels is going to be 1/2 brightness in 30,000 to 50,000 hours constant 24/7 use... Assuming 8 hour a day use, that is about ~13.5 years, that is much longer than anyone will keep a laptop.
That theory does not hold up. I can take a photo of the brightness change later.
Modern Android phones often have a dark taskbar while the rest is light colored. When you look at a solid color you can see that the spot where normally the taskbar is looks a lot brighter than the rest. Also the color balance is off because the Blue leds wear down quicker than the other colors.
Oled is still not there yet.
If wha you said was the case then there wouldnt be any burn in as well. since it isnt burn in, its brightness loss in a pattern that causes the image retention.
Multiple 10s of thousands of hours for 50% brightness is the current ratings for modern panels. The blue wearing faster is negated by using a bigger blue oled and compensating with lower voltage for the blue. Furthermore, brightness decay and image retention are different things. Image retention is easy to avoid today, OLED is there. Never had any problems with active-matrix OLEDs on a phone.
I guess we will see how the panel holds up.
Win 10 will be optimised for OLEDs and newer display tech as time passes. For now, newer panels doesn't suffer that much. Darker background always helps in alleviating the problem but not completely as others said.
Thats not the case at all. Where do you got that data from? If that was the case no mobile phone owner with an Oled panel would experience burn in which in this case caused by the brightness decay. It is not burn in similar to what happened with old CRT tubes.
The blue wearing down faster is still an issue and pentile arrangements did not fix that.
Just tried to take a photo of my phone to show it. But due to the screen brightness it is fairly hard to see.
Yes, that is the numbers for new LG OLED panels. Go check. When did I say anything about PenTile?
It is case, just because some older panels have problems, or because you found some youtube videos, which I have no intention of wasting my time with, changes nothing. Same about some 2014 random article. Yes, OLEDs degrade, that is not the problem. Image retention might be a problem, we will see.
Dont you get it? It is the degradation that causes the image retention/burn in. Some pixels that where more bright in their lifetime than others in the same panel appear more dark over time, since some colros degrade faster than others, the white balance also becomes out of whack.
Pentile is the arrangement Samsung chose to protect the color inbalance as much as possible over time. Similar technique as making some pixels larger.
That random article just perfectly shows what happens with the colors over time. One of the few that actually has it in pictures. Thats why I added it.
Those videos are all from this year by the way. With recent models. Also the Galaxy S6 and S7 phones including mine have burn-in issues so it is nothing that only appeared on older panels.
I get it perfectly...
Burn in isn't a problem when you have 30k hours for 50% brightness. Burn-in and image retention is NOT the same. Burn-in is non-uniform degradation, image retention is a phenomenon with OLED displays that happens quicker, and usually also disappears. While burn-in can cause image retention like appearance over time, it isn't the same.
I know what PenTile is. Actually it has nothing to do with OLED specifically, but is designed to achieve cheaper higher-resolution displays using fewer blue pixels (as human have far fewer blue cone photoreceptors than green or red), be it LCD or otherwise. Using a larger blue pixel to prolong OLED panel life is completely irrelevant to the panel sub-pixel arrangement. Irregardless, using a larger blue OLED does greatly alleviate the problem.
We all know what CAN happen with OLED panels, that is not the question. The question is whether or not the newer LG panels are mature enough for PC use. The AW13 panels might be ****, I don't know. But the technology is mature enough.
I can find any sources regarding your statement. But burn in already becomes apparement if there is 10% drop in brightness in some areas anyway so it doesnt really matter much. But it sounds like "TN panels have wide viewing angles" from the manufacturers. Which is true but neglecting the color shift.
LG TV panels dont have separate color leds and they still have burn in. Still apparent in their latest models. So no I do not consider it mature. Samsung at IFA2016 even showed all downsides of Oled in a nify demo and they even make oled panels.
"Only 10%"?! Really, 10% sounds little to you? Are you saying that TV panels that get image retention after 24h (or less, much less) of displaying a static image have 10% degradation on some emitters? So, they lose 10% every day, meaning that after 8days of displaying a white image at full brightness they are down to <50% brightness? Ok, sure.
Again: Brightness decay is not the only cause of image retention. And image retention is much easier to get rid off. As you correctly put, also panels using a white OLED with an RGB filter ("what LG is using") have image retention. So white shift and assymetric degradation of the fluorescent blue emitter as opposed to the phosphorescent green and blue stack is not the issue.
Brightness decay isn't something anyone should worry about, i.e. burn-in. Image retention is a more complex and interesting phenomenon.
Again modern phones show burn in signs aka permanent image retention. i am not talking about an image ghost being persistant on a screen for a few minutes.
I am typing this on a year old galaxy s6 with an average of 3 hours screentime a day with around 70% brightness. you can see clear burn in which is permanent. this is rated as one of the best oled screens in the whole industry. there is now around 15~20% reduction in brightness reported than the original number by colorimeter and white now has a terrible yellowish hue.
You say oled is mature? yet you have to fo through the trouble to manage static items on your screen.
OLED is not mature. They are making slow progress but definitely not mature. I guarantee you that when you walk up to any electronic kiosk that uses OLED especially Samsung phones you will find that most if not all of them has severe burn in. Granted that they are display models and the screens are on most of the day but if burn in issues are still playing a huge role then there is no way that this technology has mature.
Anecdotal evidence is a logical fallacy. Sensationalistic and dramatic comments like what happened to your device, or your friend's or your uncle's proves nothing. Surprising that it needs to be explained. I actually never had burn in on my device, nor have I seen or had anyone complain about that (to be honest, couldn't care less about phones, and only use mine for email). And yet this statement proves nothing.
Care for another impressive statement? Liquid crystals have potentially severe image retention problem, actually worse than OLEDs, and yet we all use liquid crystal panels with no problems. (I am sure a Google search for LCD image retention will provide you with all the meaningless videos that you could possible want).
Samsung panels are actually different than LGs, as are their suppliers of organic materials. There are over half a dozen of different synthetic compounds used today for the emissive layer. If you got severe burn in after just 1000 hours of use then the panel is weak. Samsung actually also use PWM on their devices which wouldn't be OLED friendly either. In other words, cheap panels. Luckily, Samsung's panel don't define the current state-of-the-art of a technology.
I wouldn't worry too much about it. It will take time and its absolutely worst case scenarios for burn in and image retention to happen. I'd kill for an OLED display in an Alienware R4 with 120hz.
Thank you everyone for helping me make this decision. My conclusion from the many different sources I read: A small proportion of people are facing burn ins immediately but the rest have been completely fine. This does not seem to be a big problem at the moment.
Problems? See this thread at archive.org.
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