Ok i made a heatsink for the PCH ... i was getting like 80°C on pch so.... i wanted to reduce temps and see if the power limit throttling is caused by heat... i bought the aluminum piece on a sound repair shop ... i dont know how to call it XD my english is not perfect as you can see lol ... i used a little piece of thermal pad 0,5mm tickness and 6W/mk ... is not the best, but make a good job. I took advantage of the disassembly and cleaned everithyng @VICKYGAMEBOY
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ok to everyone ... i tested a LOT and here is my conclusion: for AW15R1 and 17R2 models ...
1) confirmed = PCH overheating cause the Power limit throttling without any "visible" reason because they hide the PCH temperature ... the only way to see it, is from DIAGNOSTIC test at boot.
2) intel thermal framework is a problem without the proper driver of intel management engine ... i fount that windows update automatically the driver to 11.something version and the processor consume more voltage without needing it. for example playing battlefiled 4 at 2,5Ghz with 11 version, the voltage of the procesor is 0,86V with my undervolt ... and with the stock intel MEI 10(that you can find on the page of Dell) it consume 0,746V at 2,5Ghz and obiously less heat. you have to go to device manager and find the driver on system devices and uninstall the driver checking the option of delete the driver folder. also you need to uninstall the driver from installed programs and install it again. and to prevent a future update driver = http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/stop-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10
3) with the proper intel MEI driver and the thermal framework driver from Dell, you can adjust the power options in the advanced setting of your power plan (now with real efect) ... also you can make your fans spin as the A00 Bios using the A06 putting the acoustic limit to 5
4) putting a simple thermal pad (2 of 2mm thicknes, like a sandwich and 2cmx2cm) can improve your PCH temperature (i tested it and works fine) preventing the power limit throttling and 800mhz bug ... without any type of heatsink my cpu throttles down to 2,5Ghz at 15min of gaming and something arround 1,5 hours of gaming throttles down to 800Mhz for 2 minutes and later to 2,5Ghz again. PCH colling prevent this issue
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@judal57 wow nice job there, but how about copper shims.. use a thermal pad inbetween PCH and copper shim.. but seems ur getting a good temp drop.. 20c difference... its ok bro.. you dont have to speak english proper.. we all can understand.. why did u the remove the fan for ?? i might open my system tomorrow before installing windows 10 redstone 2, gonna try use some of the heatsink from my old amd motherboards.. lets see.
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Very nice indeed. ~16C drop in temp is well worth the mod for anyone having high PCH heat issues.
Mine stays around 69-71C max after hours of gaming...
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Nice job. You made the right choice on metal because aluminum dissipates heat better than copper.
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I believe copper holds heat better but aluminum disperses heat faster
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I would pay for such a heatsink
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@VICKYGAMEBOY i want to install a mini fan above the wifi card .. in this space ... help me to find a little fan ...Last edited by a moderator: Sep 19, 2016 -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5pcs-5V-2Pi...964585?hash=item338b8337a9:g:qmQAAOSw2GlXFeZe
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I'm going to do this heat sink mod too once I do a repaste. After a gaming session I saw the PCH max out at 82c. I'm not too crazy about that.
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@Prema do you think this is safe to try https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thr...-MSI-BIOS-to-unlock-full-features-UEFI-Aptio4 seems like he can unlock the BIOS
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Do you have the dimensions for the heat sink you used?
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HI, i saw this on a forum .... i would like to know ... how to make it, any suggestions ??? @VICKYGAMEBOY @iunlock
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You also could buy a roll of 3M carbon fibre sticker. which is the same material. Disassembly the palm rest and wrap it fully similar to here.
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Heat sink looks the same as the ones for the raspberry pi
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ok to everyone ... i tested a LOT and here is my conclusion: for AW15R1 and 17R2 models ...
1) confirmed = PCH overheating cause the Power limit throttling without any "visible" reason because they hide the PCH temperature ... the only way to see it, is from DIAGNOSTIC test at boot.
2) intel thermal framework is a problem without the proper driver of intel management engine ... i fount that windows update automatically the driver to 11.something version and the processor consume more voltage without needing it. for example playing battlefiled 4 at 2,5Ghz with 11 version, the voltage of the procesor is 0,86V with my undervolt ... and with the stock intel MEI 10(that you can find on the page of Dell) it consume 0,746V at 2,5Ghz and obiously less heat. you have to go to device manager and find the driver on system devices and uninstall the driver checking the option of delete the driver folder. also you need to uninstall the driver from installed programs and install it again. and to prevent a future update driver = http://winsupersite.com/windows-10/stop-automatic-driver-updates-windows-10
3) with the proper intel MEI driver and the thermal framework driver from Dell, you can adjust the power options in the advanced setting of your power plan (now with real efect) ... also you can make your fans spin as the A00 Bios using the A06 putting the acoustic limit to 5
4) putting a simple thermal pad (2 of 2mm thicknes, like a sandwich and 2cmx2cm) can improve your PCH temperature (i tested it and works fine) preventing the power limit throttling and 800mhz bug ... without any type of heatsink my cpu throttles down to 2,5Ghz at 15min of gaming and something arround 1,5 hours of gaming throttles down to 800Mhz for 2 minutes and later to 2,5Ghz again. PCH colling prevent this issue
5) dell need to do something like this back lid mod, because the PCH, SSD's, HDD and ram dont recive fresh air and gets extremelly hot
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Im not sure how it would affect this particular laptop. However I am familiar with air pressure in a desktop case and it does matter.
Having too much open air vents lowers the pressure which reduces air flow efficiency.Last edited by a moderator: Sep 19, 2016 -
Also, my PCH temp isn't an issue as it stays in the mid to high 60's most of the time even after gaming. I do have some thermal pad pieces left over so I'll put some on top of the PCH for fun and report back.Last edited: Aug 10, 2016 -
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Anyone got a link to the correct size sinks?
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As long if the PCH is under 85C it should be okay though. I have seen some with and without heatsink. A little metal plate is more of a shield though than a heatsink. Still thinking if I will mod this. Cant check my temp for some reason in HWinfo. Even though I enabled the configuration to read the PCH temp.
For me securing the heatsink is quite the issue. I like it for hardware to be secur ebut their are obviously no mounting points for a heatsink. Sandwitching it between the motherboard and chassis with thermal pads seems a little bit risky when it comes to thermal expansion (possibly) and thus falling inside of the chassis and cause a short.. Could use heatsink glue, the type that they sell with aftermarket coolers to secure ram heatsinks on videocards for example but that would be a problem if you need support because that is pretty much permanent. -
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this type of pch "heatsink" is so thin ... that i think that made the same as nothing :S my AW m14x R1 come withis this type of heatsink and get hot as ****
i would like to see something like this in my model @Papusan
i am going to make my own back lid in transparent acrylic with little holes for vent this will be amazing ... i will be able to see my SSD and ram without removing the lidLast edited by a moderator: Sep 19, 2016 -
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Hi guys, I wanna ask would a 17x17x2mm heatsink helps cooling down the PCH temp? I am a noooob so I dont want to risk damaging the laptop, but I can see from the gap its possible to just slide it under and stick it with thermal paste. Thanks in advance
This is the product I'm talking about.
https://world.taobao.com/item/10349...93.1997994373.d4919385.zqbFmB&_u=4292eqtlc14d -
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PCH heatsink mod alienware 15
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