*OFFICIAL* Alienware m15 R4 / m17 R4 Owner's Lounge

Tell me who knows. When I connect an external monitor via USB-C, it is detected and works fine. But if you turn on the laptop, the image is not transmitted to the USB-C monitor, although it is visible as connected in the monitor manager. If you remove and re-insert the USB-C cable, the image appears. I think this is some kind of software problem. What can I do? On an old laptop, this monitor immediately shows the image when you turn on the laptop, and now you have to re-connect it every time you turn it on.

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Скажите кто знает. Когда я подключаю внешний монитор через USB-C он определяется и работает нормально. Но если включить ноутбук, что изображение на монитор USB-C не передается, хотя в диспетчере мониторов он виден как подключенный. Если вынуть и снова вставить кабель USB-C, то изображение появляется. Я думаю, это какая-то программная проблема. Что можно сделать? На старом ноутбуке этот монитор сразу же показывает изображение при включении ноутбука, а сейчас приходится перетыкать при каждом включении.

 

Not if you want max performance. I was able to hit 4700mhz on most cores and it stood at 100C Without lm. Im sure if lm was there even keeping it at 80C I would be happy with it. I want it to do at least 4GHZ under 80C

 

With repasting and undervolting it could be possible. Again try it with Prime95, it generates enormous load on all cores.

 

Whats the best software for undervolting?

 

Throttlestop

 

Found this guide seems pretty good Going to give it a shot

https://www.yourtechbro.com/complete-undervolting-guide-for-cpu-and-gpu/

 

Anyone have some good Throttlestop Settings for the Alienware m15 R4 i7-10870H ?

Good Screenshot of there Setttings and Temps

 

Most processors and machines arent the same. I would suggest undervolting it by -70 and working your way up 5mv at a time until unstable then go back 10mv up to stabilize. My processor was able to undervolt 115mv but others can do more or less. Plus you have a 15 inch so cooling on that machine is extremely limited compared to my 17 inch

 

I created two videos about my M17 R4 laptop. The first overview. In the second, there are a lot of tests and a comparison with the 10750H+RTX2070

 

Guys i think that backlit RGB trackpad might work on the M17 R4. Im thinking of purchasing one and trying it out. if i can get dell to somehow sell me one. I also need to find the part number. I tried the service manual but it doesnt have the part number for it. Also I have discovered Liquid metal PADS lol never heard of this until today. It takes all the guess work out of placing lm so im gonna try this out since its only a 1 to 2C difference from the actual liquid metal. melts at 58C and is used as a filler as well according to Collaboratory. Comes with 6 Pre cut pads 3 for GPU and 3 for CPU which ill have to cut smaller for cpu but gpu is good for 17 bucks on amazon. Since they use tripod this should even out. anybody ever try liquid copper? So pad shim pad as per instructions

 

Kinda disappointed in Dell for not making the NVMe slots typology more clear in the product page.
I got 2 bigger NVMe drives to setup in RAID 0 to get some really fast speeds(6GBs+) and could only manage 3.4GB/s read and write.
After some digging it seems like the NVMe slots share the same PCIe 3.0 x4 bandwidth, so you'll never get the full benefits of RAID 0. A good, single NVMe drive will perform the same as 2 good NVMe in RAID 0.
Makes it pointless for Dell to sell the systems with a option for 2x 512GB drives in RAID 0, there's almost no benefit to having RAID 0

 

Ok got my new system! @Papusan @Mr. Fox outta the box plus an undervolt of -110mv temps are in the late 70s while playing 3k (Three Kingdoms) on Ultra and having units in extreme Gpu stays at around 4.3ghz sometimes 4.7ghz Gpu around 1850 with a mild oc of plus 50 Temps for gpu is 58C gpu doesnt pass 145W do to cpu getting full power (gpu was not undervolted). If i stress test the cpu wont pass 3ghz as it thermal throttles 100C. For gaming its good enough for me. NOW when i get my liquid metal pads i will try that out and report temps.

 

heres my firestrike

 

have you done a Timespy?

 

good

 

im 22 on fire strike

no time spy yet but i cant get better clocks as no matter what my temps were my gpu conks out at 1890 if it hits 1905 screen goes black. I can hit 1905 like nothing as my temps stay in the lower 60s now on full load. highest clocked 3080 was 1980mhz

 

So i repasted gpu and cpu When CPU hits all core 4.2ghz temps stay at 72C When gpu hits 162W at 1890ghz stays at 59C my gpu wont go beyond that as ill get a black screen so ive hit a wall unfortunately. Ive noticed while gaming GPU hits 162W but my CPU drops to 26W and will not pass 3.3ghz max do to voltage constraint (this is without undervolt and even with an overvolt of 40mv.) Is there anyway to fix this? Ive tried turning off c states in throttlestop no go

 

Those temps are really good, what thermal compound did you use ?
Do you use 330W or 240W? If it’s 240W maybe it cannot supply enough current.

 

its 330W power supply Im using Thermalright TF 14.5W/mk on GPU and Liquid metal pad on CPU i ran out of phobya nano grease extreme which is my fav at 16W/mk

 

Here is a firestrike and timespy with my r4.

 

I’m ordering that for my R4 aswell, those temps are really good. I usually use Shin etsu 7783 with 6W/mk, no wonder my temps were so bad.
Not sure how the power delivery is managed in this laptop. But the temps and performance seems to be in the sweet spot.

 

Wow those are insane for m15 r4, is this with 165W vbios? What about the temps ?

 

Yes it's the 165w vbios plus a +100 core +325 mem overclock. I only have a 240w psu. I did try a 330w psu and it did not seem to make a difference in performance. My temps max out in the low 80s

 

Those are some great scores..GG! Would you mind posting the 3dmark link so I could do a add to compare?

 

So the power supply doesn’t seem to limit anything here, that’s great.
Also those temps are really good considering it’s a m15 and 165W tgp

 

Here you go.
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/25790640
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/21073964

 

The temps are ok. I tried liquid metal but the heatsink makes very poor contact so my temps actually increased. I am using kryonaut. It works ok. In performance fan profile it maintains 80s on gpu and 90s on cpu in a heavy load game like apex. With full speed it drops to 70s and 80s.

 

Is it the kryonaut extreme or the other one ?
I’m deciding between thermalright TFx and kryonaut extreme. Those temps seems to be in decent range.

 

Are you noticing any GPU thermal throttling? My AWCC seems to be limiting GPU temps to 80c max for balanced, 82c for performance goes to 84c on max fans. GPU-Z should tell you what the current limit is.. It's ignoring the 87c limit in the overclocking profile.

 

Not that i have noticed. I wasn't aware the fan profiles limit power in order to hit certain temperatures. That sounds not like what they should do. I'll test a bit but my 3080 usually runs full tilt. I have noticed that it rarely runs at 165w tho. It ranges from 125w to 150w mostly

 

here's a look, maybe this is a better solution than m17 ) for
just $2872 you get an i7-10875H + Quadro RTX 5000 w/16GB GDDR6
at the same time you will have 4 slots of RAM and 4 slots for ssd m.2
https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/sho...rationid=b83c81ee-bb25-41d3-9d17-ea2c8bf698a1

 

Here you go guys my new temps while i game on starwars battlefront! GPU stays around 63C or lower CPU highest is 72C Full load. ALL CORE 4.115G to 4.2 max This is after a -105.5mv undervolt of the CPU and a repaste with Liquid metal pads and also a repaste of the GPU with thermalright TF 14.5w/mk and it has an overclock 1890 with boost 1905 and memory +100 (for mining the memory can oc 1275mhz!!! 63mh) (140W or less most of the time) and slight undervolt of -25mv (i would have used phobya nano grease extreme to get the extra 1.5W/mk rating) but im satisfied with these temps, Fans are on performance settings. if i set to balance temps go up about 3-7C. This is on Windows 11 Pro using Ultra settings in the game with dx 12 on. Benchmark temps dont matter to me as i will only use this for gaming. Temps will actually lower 2 to 4c if you put it on jet turbine lol (full speed)cI also removed the sticker thing behind the GPU and added 2mm thick pads 12w/mk rated and might even add aluminum heatsink for passive extra cooling but right now i dont think it needs it as my 3080 is a poor overclocker anything over 1905 gets black screen

 

That is pretty amazing. 63c gpu and 72c cpu on performance fan profile. If my m15 r4 can atleast do +10c of that I'll be satisfied. I have ordered some phobya nanogrease TIM based on what I've read here, hopefully that helps my temps. My specs are: i9 with 3080 and 4k oled. I'm currently 80c gpu and 90c cpu

 

Awesome

 

For cpu I used liquid metal pads from coollaboratory. Use pads to make the gap between the cpu and heatsink with a copper shim 0.1mm should suffice. Lay pad shim then another pad unless the heatsink makes good contact with processor then no need to add a shim used 1 pad and apply 2x. I would use a thick amount of the grease on gpu. Just goob it in the middle and let the heatsink do the rest.

 

Does anybody know what the pad sizes are in this laptop ive look all over online and cant find them. I know someone said they 1.0mm here but i put that size and thermals went all over the place after that. I switched out the pads for 17W ones from fujilopy to see if i can get better thermals and move oc room on gpu

 

Anyone found a solution for the 30w CPU throttle?

If i play BFV and CP2077 the i9 and i7 is getting limited to 30w from 60w after a few minutes...

 

I said, on my model r4 was all 1mm

 

That didn't work out for me I put all 1 mm and the temps went crazy it shut down after 3 min uptime.

 

I have some problem. I have a monitor connected to an Alienware M17 R4 laptop via HDMI. When I run a browser game on a laptop screen (FHD 144Hz), when the mouse moves on the external screen, the built-in screen starts to flicker. And after some time, the external screen goes out, and the brightness on the laptop screen becomes very low, probably 5%. After the reboot, everything is fine. This appears only when the chrome laptop screen with the game is on, I didn't notice it in other applications. Has anyone ever had this? Maybe it's some kind of driver problem?

 

Do you have an oc on your gpu? Bad cable? Try setting it up to not duplicate screens and use the external screen only. I have samsung 49 in attached to mine with oc and no issue yet mine is connected mini dp and it's set only for the Samsung screen as the native res is 5120x1440p at 120hz with hdr on

 

Guys... I canceled my M15 R4 order so that I could save a bit of money by getting the M15 R5 (which I'd returned previously, not sure why I did a 180), and then immediately regretted it. I've now reordered the M15 R4. The more you analyze the specs, the more inferior the R5 seems. Everything on the R4 is better. Literally every. Single. Tiny. Thing. And the R4 looks like a sexy, beefy, aggressive spaceship. I actually feel quite attached to the way it looks, so much so that I cannot imagine myself owning another laptop in lieu of it (besides maybe the X17, but the black on white design looks kind of corny).

I even managed to score a better deal. $1335 after cashback for the 3070/32GB/1TB/144hz model, compared to the $1008 I spent on the 5800H/3060/16GB/256GB R5. The extra ~$330 is a huge no brainer. Any chance it will actually arrive by the Aug. 11 estimated delivery time?

 

It will get there on time in my experience. They have all the m15r4s in stock and ready to ship. Don't expect premium packaging but it's pretty snappy. I bought mine on thursday last week and got it monday due to the weekend. I bought and later returned the r5. The r4 is much better but i miss the 1440p screen and the mux switch. I seriously have considered trading out my 300hz screen on my new laptop for the 144hz screen on your laptop. Other than that i also got the cherry mx keyboard which i really like.

 

Is it possible to request a new bios from dell with MUX switch for displays without DDS support as they did for R5.

Motherboard already has the hardware just needs the bios update.

 

Anyone have a dell 330w PSU? It seems my new laptop is power throttling.

 

Wow that's pretty fast. I placed my original order for the R4 (3070/32GB/512GB/144hz) on June 22 and it still hadn't shipped on July 9, when I canceled. Seems like the 1 month turnaround is realistic. I was really hoping it would ship before the July 22 estimate.

The R5's QHD screen is really the only advantage that laptop has over the R4. And if it were only <~$50 more expensive, I definitely would have gotten the 300hz R4. The mux switch is good but 300hz gives you bragging rights and better resale value. Sounds like you wanted the pimped out config, so you chose the right thing.

The per-key RGB membrane keyboard is the only R4 option available on the Dell's website but it will definitely be better than the 4-zone crap I had on my first R5. I would only ever use a single static color on a 4-zone keyboard.

 

Hi there!

So I own a M15 R4 with the RTX 3080 (overclocked with +125w core, +200w memory through AWCC), i7-10870H (with -0.100V undervolt), 32gb rams and 2tb hard drive. However, I have 140W so I guess I have a newer vBios (the one you can find under the Dell driver page for your computer). How do I get the vBios with 165W and still keep Resizable BAR? I tried search for the Dell vBios Utility but couldn't find anything under my computer's drivers. Can any point me on how to achieve this (and if it is even worth it)?

 

Not so sure it is so smart cross-flash vbios. Aw m17 R4 have the 3080 with 16GB vram.

 

Hi, you can see how to do it on this post http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...r4-owners-lounge.835058/page-84#post-11101752
I haven't noticed any downsides yet. Even thermals are still fine. No game crashes, GPU-Z shows the 8GB VRAM as expected, really all good so far - at least from my experience

 

Same here