*OFFICIAL* Alienware m15 R4 / m17 R4 Owner's Lounge

*OFFICIAL* Alienware m15 R4 / m17 R4 Owner's Lounge

Alienware M15R4 Battery Issue When Gaming dell.com/support

 

Latest nvidia drivers today killed my system. Any OC at all causes a black screen on the desktop or any application. Random black screens even without an OC but not as frequent. Rolling back now to the Dell video drivers. Thanks Nvidia. Stay away from these.

Update: rolling back fixed all issues and I can overclock again. The new drivers today appear to be fine at first but on your next reboot, the black screens begin. I would advise we all stay away from this driver as it has done it on my m17 R4 and my 3090 desktop.

 

Does anyone know why installing a driver directly from nvidia errors out saying no compatible hardware, but doing it through GeForce experience works? I want to use the last GeForce driver but it won't install, and experience only gives you the latest broken driver.

 

Use DDU to clean out old drivers then try out NVCleanstall

More here... http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...-owners-lounge.826831/page-2268#post-11032236

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/intel-drivers-updates.782418/page-47#post-11038788

 

I still need to know if this was stock or not. This was my 3070 run https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/61171469

EDIT: Even this 3070 is pretty pathetic. My G15 3070 run is just a hundred points lower and that's a 100W TGP https://www.3dmark.com/spy/19019839

 

My 3070 was overclocked.

 

OK, thank you. I was referring specifically to testing with stock. It's important to have a good baseline for comparison What were your core/mem +?

 

I've been playing around as well with my new M15 R4 (144 Hz screen, 3070, 16 GB memory). Overall this is a great device!

I've particularly taken the challenge to:
- Optimize battery life: get as much battery life as possible out of the machine. And yes, I know it is a gaming device, but I still think that a laptop with Optimus (144 Hz screen) and an 85 Wh battery should be able to manage more than 2 hours. Out of the box, even with Optimus, it only manages about 2.5 - 3 hours, which is abysmal. After some tuning and undervolting in ThrottleStop (key one seems to be "Disable Turbo"), I managed to get 6-7 hours out of it. For normal use (e.g. browsing), the laptop is still very snappy. In HWInfo, I can also see that the power draw is between 12 and 16 Watts, so that's pretty good. I'm perfectly happy with this!
- Experiment with mining: the 3070 is a very capable card for Ethereum mining. However, it's quite an expensive laptop to do mining with, but as an experiment I tried to see what I could get out of this machine. Result is that I can get it to run stable at about 65 MH/second mining Ethereum. Stable means it's running for about two hours, so let's see if it also runs a day or more. Settings I used are all in Afterburner: overclock of Memory with 1500 Mhz (so running at 8500) and in the Voltage/Frequency curve, I locked the voltage at 650 mV with a frequency of 875 Mhz. Total power draw of the GPU is about 110 Watts (in HWInfo) and in total for the whole machine about 120 Watts. GPU temperatures are stable at ~60 degree Celcius and GPU hot spot temperatures are a maximum of 66 degree Celcius, which should be quite acceptable and sustainable. Quite impressed so far, since this is in line with what I read from desktop 3070 cards! With electricity costs in my country and current Ethereum prices (which are insane), this should generate about 6$ per day.

Does anybody have any experiences with mining on an M15 R4?

 

Recently upgraded M.2 with Samsung 980 PRO 4.0 NVMe SSD 500GB
But no Copper Thermal Shield Cover were can I find this part?

 

I just use mine for mining lol I get 61-65 mh I thought I would use it for other things... I also bought a cooling pad it sets on and stays at the temps you see. Fan is set to Balance because the cooling pad does most of the work and don't like running the laptop fans to high 24/7.

It's going on non-stop now for almost 2 weeks.

Here is the Cooling pad I use.
https://www.amazon.com/Kootek-Lapto...oling+Pad&qid=1619911994&s=electronics&sr=1-4

 

Just bought one and is the exact same part number.

https://www.amazon.com/Deal4GO-Heatsink-Thermal-Alienware-ET2VR000300/dp/B08DMR9QPN

 

Nice thanks

 

Cool! I also ordered a cooling pad (Cooler Master U3 plus) because I fully agree the fans shouldn't run at 70% 24/7. I noticed it already helps a lot to lift the laptop a bit - temperature drops with 3-4 degrees just by doing that.

I do have some issues with the miner running stable. I let it run overnight and, although it was somehow still running (using Ethermine and it was still reporting that it was running), the screen didn't come back on, so had to do a hard reset. Which mining software are you using? And at what settings did you set your videocard?

 

You can see in one of the pics I posted I think it was -502 Core and +1100 mem. I know you can do better with a custom curve but I did not want to dig to much into it. I use LOLminer 1.26.

I mine with the screen open I don't want it to get to hot with it close. Also make sure to turn hibernation off and anything like. I keep the laptop in my garage haha. I have my gaming computer mine when am not gaming with it. The laptop I install google remote desktop so I can log into it from within the house if needed be.

 

Hey Everyone! Could any of you guys upload your M15 R4's 3070 VBIOS?

I've been trying to get my 2021 Razer vbios flashed to a higher wattage, while I usually have great success getting the 100-115w vbioses to work great, (been on them for about a month) it breaks both USB c outputs. I figured trying a vbios that has an actual thunderbolt usb c port might work better?

 

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal Paste
2 Hours Cyberpunk 2077
Temps Ok??

 

Thanks for the info! I'm overclocking memory with 1500 and it ran stable for more than a day, but is now crashing occasionally again. Will reduce it to check if that's the culprit.

The fans in the cooling pad don't seem to make a significant difference, max 0.5 degrees Celsius.

 

Your core temperature uniformity is not great. Try using a different paste like Gelid GC Extreme or Phobya Nanogrease.

 

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Thermal RePaste Both CPU and GPU
2 Hours Cyberpunk 2077
Temp Check? I think I got it 70C max Idle 40C

 

Returned the m17 R4 3080 model. It's just not worth the price increase over the 3070. Outside of benchmarks the framerate isn't a noticeable difference.

 

Good choice. I have the max P 3080 in a GE76 raider and I barely see a difference when gaming between this and my 3070 m17 R4. Also, my 3070 in the m17 overclocks so high that it almost makes up for it.

 

Does the Alienware m15 R4 M.2 Interface PCIe Gen 4.0 or Gen 3.0 ?

 

Only Gen 3 I have Gen 4's in it and they only run at 3 sadly.

 

https://twitter.com/alienware/status/1390305466392190976?s=21

New x series coming out May 11. Expect Tiger Lake H with full wattage GPUs. Hopefully they keep the upgradeable RAM and the better screen options from r5.

 

You talking about a 200w+ gpu? I hope so, but I have my massive doubts on that one lol.

 

If that's true then I guess it's time to sell my m17 r4 and just stick to a desktop. I hate these new release every 3 months game alienware does now. They purposely release new product and hold features or revs for a month or two later. Back when alienware was alienware, they waited at least a year before releasing something new so that customers can enjoy the latest and greatest for more than 30 days. What a terrible staggered launch this year for their laptops. Expect the X to only launch with a 3060 or 3070 and the 3080 R7 special edition to launch next month with better screens and new colors lol

 

I guess they should have waited for tiger lake and refreshed the lineup once it had arrived. But that would mean competition beat them to the market on the RTX 30 series. So they just crammed the new GPUs in the old chassis and called it a day. You can understand why they did it. Are you outside the return window already ? They typically allow returns a bit outside the return window if you place another order with them. That was my experience previously atleast.

 

My m17 was bought from bestbuy so I'm passed my 30 day window by a week. I couldn't pass on it because they price matched it incorrectly and took the price down from 2250 to 1799 brand new. I'm just sick of alienwares trickle launches that just keep screwing buyers. By the time you order a unit and receive it from dell, they already have better options and models out.

 

yeah bro, that is an incredible deal for what you got lol. GG

 

I see you have a 3070. Could you send me your vbios? I would be very greatful!

 

Sure, how do you want me to send it to you?

 

I can't overclock my 3070 in my M17 R4 even 20mhz over stock without full crashes and reboots. Has anyone else here experienced this? If it's crashing completely at just 20mhz over stock, I'm thinking it's probably no good even at stock settings.

 

Don't use latest nvidia drivers.

 

Thank you!!! Thought I had bought a dud laptop

 

Is it worth Repasting with LM? is it worth repadding with higher tier pads (16w/mk)? Whats the highest the 10870H hits in speed? this is probably for resale purpose as i was adviced to sell ASAP! lol i havent even got in my hands yet. Anybody tried mining mine is comin with a 3080 whats the mh rate? Overclock on memory and core? I appreciate all your feedback on these topics. I may keep it for mining chia (6TB SSD Space) and ethereum.

 

Liquid metal and Gelid GP Extreme thermal pads www.notebookcheck.net/Intel-Core-i7-10870H

Remember the sales value will be lower once the refresh is out. Say hello to the smaller sibling Alienware M15R6 Chicken Edition gaming laptop.

Alienware brand new m15-R6 15.6-inch 11-generation high-definition independent gaming chicken gaming laptop 1761 black eleventh generation i7/16G/3060/2K [package version] official standard




And as expected... TCC Offset has become a main feature for the Alienware's and properly mentioned in the link @Normimb

 

The R6 is just the R5 but with 11th gen intel? Where is the super special X series laptops they teased?

 

They just make stuff up as they go to trick people into thinking they are getting something special.

 

The order hasn't even shipped yet. Should I just cancel the order??

 

How do you read the full comments ppl make when they give you rep. I never get to read the full comment

 

Part of me thinks that, given the lack of an m17, they haven't finished their announcements yet. But hey, I could be wrong.
Actually, that's just a product page. I don't even think Alienware has made any announcements yet the the m15 R6 just got leaked.

 

1-2-3 and profits

 

Yes, absolutely.

 

I agree with this. They will most definitely have some sort of 17inch screen option machine. I don't ever see them abandoning that for all 15's.

 

@Papusan I don't know what to make of this

 

I posted my point of views here. The Thin X-factor, LOOL



The thin sickness trend contnue. They are forced to use Quad fans now, probably because two thinner fans compared to what you find in it's predecessor would be too weak. And with Liquid metal you can't improve the cooling anymore on the Alienwares. Cheaper with Gallium thermal interface than make a thicker and big boy cooling.


Oh I forgot. You can't put in a full size cooling in an thin Apple Book either. You trade the cooling for thinnes.


Alienware teases brand-new X-series compact gaming laptops with innovative quad fan cooling system and Gallium Silicone interface material

From what we can see in the teaser images, the X17 seems a bit thinner than the Alienware m17 models. The screen aspect ratio is most likely 16:9 and the ports on the back include a Thunderbolt 4 connector, a USB-C with DP capabilities, 2x USB-A, HDMI and mini-DP video outputs, a GbE jack and a miniSD card reader.

Dell's main competitor is stil Razer and their new thinner Joke-books.


The ultra-thin Razer Blade 15 is now available with Tiger Lake-H, GeForce RTX 3080 and 4K OLED display
The Razer Blade 15 has received an upgrade, the new model is not only thinner than its own predecessor, according to Razer it is the thinnest gaming notebook in the world that is equipped with Nvidia GeForce RTX graphics chips.

Alienware Refreshes m15, Teases Thin New X-Series
Alienware is also taking the opportunity to tease an upcoming product, the new X-Series line focused on thinness above all else. The X-series will use Intel's 11th Gen Core processor and Nvidia RTX 30-series graphics.

 

An announcement of an announcement. I don't like it when companies do this.

 

A good way to try keep people stay put on the fence instead for jumping directly on the competitors new products.

 

@Papusan, what can we expect with Tiger Lake H45 series? Is there any documentation which states how much power it needs to draw on full load in order to hit max turbo? Like any info on PL2 or something?

 

Better performance than Ryzen 5000 series H mobile. And the added AVX-512 instructions will push the cooling to the utter limits.

https://www.pcworld.com/article/361...n-tiger-lake-h-cpus-for-gaming-notebooks.html

Scenarios like our Cinebench benchmark will push all of the cores on that chip to 4.5GHz, consequently pushing up the power consumption to as high as 135 watts, according to Ryan Shrout, Intel’s performance guru.

Intel Launches Eight Core Tiger Lake-H Processors: Higher Power Consumption, Lower Clocks
https://www.tomshardware.com/news/i...ger-lake-h-processors-more-power-lower-clocks

https://ark.intel.com/content/www/u...980hk-processor-24m-cache-up-to-4-90-ghz.html

Read data sheet for 11th gen (Tiger lake).