*OFFICIAL* Alienware Area-51M R2 Owner's Lounge

Awesome score mate! Thanks for using OpenHardware! Much better than HWiNFO IMHO! No configuration needed!

 

Can you comment on fan noise, coil whine etc?

 

That's why you get the portable version of hwinfo64, no installer, just the .exe

 

Fan noise is very loud on max, sounds more like just rushing air though than a normal whiny fan. Peformance fan is pretty audible but nothing to annoying in my opinion. Balanced is very quiet but gaming on balanced is a bit too warm for my liking.

Sorry don't have anything to measure the decibels.

 

I always do but I like Open Hardware Monitor's default layout much more, just launch it, no settings or layout edits, everything is right there in the same screen by default (CPU + GPU) temps. I dunno why HWiNFO by default puts the GPU temps way at the bottom

 

It looks clean if you're just interested in the temps and clocks. But I use hwinfo64 for general logging, checking throttling, 'perfcap reasons' and any hidden Windows WHEA instability errors The layout is easily customized, so that you don't drown in information that you don't need, but takes a couple clicks.

 

jc_denton =

 

I've got -100mv undervolt now and it still seems stable. Cinebench no longer hits 100'c and got about 100 point bump in score.

Think i can take the undervolt further but would have to use throttlestop and AWCC only allows up to -100mv

 

Not getting 100C on Cinebench R20 with those clock speeds on its own is a great achievement! I wouldn't undervolt more than that to be honest even if you could. While you may not encounter any crashes immediately, you might sooner or later when you throw heavy load on the CPU and will get numerous memory dumps and event log errors in the background.

 

Impressive for stock thermals to run 10900K @4.9GHz All Cores ~225W without reaching temp limit.

But seriously, do not use AWCC. I would try -0.125v on ThrottleStop and run both TimeSpy/Cinebench. If it still run stable, time to move foward and OC

Edit: Nobody asked yet, but there we go: Hows the BIOS?

 

I'm a bit bummed the R2 is not offered with more screen options. The Clevo X170 offers a 240Hz G-sync 1080p screen, which would have been the sweet spot IMO.

 

Overclocking is not needed and only doable if you delid it and even then I'm not sure the cooling would handle it

You can always cap the fps at 240 hz in Nvidia pannel which would then be the same

 

If it handles @4.9 using stock paste without even reach the temp limit, he can re-paste with some Kryonaut and use Thermals Pads, you can overclock with that for sure. Delid is the next step if you want to go even further, like @5.3 or beyond

 

This will be fun

 

5Ghz would likely be riding the the thermal limits close to 100c again, since the heat generated would be quite intense, as power consumption goes with voltage squared.

 

Using stock paste and 100-125mv undervolt most likely he can't go past to 5GHz.

IDK if @ratchetnclank plan upgrading, mind tell us?
For pads/paste i recommend Fujipoly Extreme and Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut (Conductionaut if delliding)

 

I upgraded my Area-51m R2 now to not only include the Silicon Lottery delidded 109000K but I also added the Fujipoly Extreme Thermal Pads. Let's see what this setup would produce! GELID GC Extreme on the CPU + GPU

 

If you plan on opening this machine up please let me know the thickness of the pads loooool
I'm gonna put the fujipoly ones , what's the best way to make sure you use the right thickness , just put them next to each other ? Would that be accurate since the used ones will me most likely compressed ?

 

Any leg up with this sort of scaling helps.

 

@Papusan @Mr. Fox
do you know why Intel called it Comet (Guilty) Lake? Because they felt guilty that they didn't give us the 7nm CPU to keep those temps down.

 

I'm not going to open it and go that far. That's the whole point of me getting all this done in-house by the techs. I really have no patience for these kind of things, training at the gym for 1.5 hours + 1.5 hours cardio + playing with a 4 year old, etc....

But to answer your question, the thickness is: 1mm, .5, 1.5 (got this from our tech girl)

 

Thanks !

 

I was checking my area 51 m I have a spy score of 10900 points, it is pretty close to the i9 10900k no ?
I hoped there would be a bigger gap

 

That's an excellent score. I get 9974 on my 9700K/RTX 2080 and 10735 on my previous Area-51m with a 9900K/RTX 2080

 

Physics score seems off for 9900K at 5Ghz, it should be over 12600 points. Time Spy generally cares a lot more about graphics for the total score.

 

Sorry to disappoint i don't think ill be doing delid/liquid metal. Don't have the bottle for it yet.

Probably repaste soon but i don't think that will bring the temps down more than 3-4'c.

 

Yeah, 3 bin below what it should be

 

Anyone know if it's possible to assign fan profiles to the macro keys? I'd love a quick way to switch without loading up AWCC.

 

So the R2 heatsink is good enough ?

 

Seems to be or at least mine does.

 

It looks much better after you put down a tune on the undervolt. How well is memory performing so far, must be a nice upgrade from R1s 2400MT/s Perhaps you could run the aida64 cache and memory benchmark? To see the performance of 2933 memory and latency.

 

The timings from CPUID etc would be a great start. Just the fact the memory is 2933 MHz does not guarantee thay it is significantly faster than 2400MHz. Dell has a track record of supplying subpar memory, so we could reasonably expect that to be the case here as well. We won't know for sure until someone posts the timings though.

 

No G-sync thou. :-(

 

Not sure how useful that is since i only have the trial version which seems to block out half the results.

 

I thought gsync was only useful to prevent tearing which you only get when your fps exceeds the monitors refresh rate. Which when the refresh rate is 300hz is fairly hard to do.

 

Ah I see, you can run the individual benchmarks under the benchmarks tab in the lower right menu, interesting to see write & copy results.
Is that is 2933 CL21-21-21-47 XMP? Is there any timing adjustment allowed in the bios at all to improve the performance?
You could up the cache to 46 to reduce the latency, but that would likely need a lower undervolt due to vcore affecting the ring clock (L3).

 

whats the max CPU temp under Cinebench?

 

CL21.... Well, at least they are consistent and supplied what's likely the slowest memory on the market. The effective throughput is about the same as my 2666 HyperX running in a lowly m15, and latency is about 8% higher. 2933 HyperX would be around a whopping 20% faster while costing less than Dell's RAM...

 

It probably wouldn't work, same as the RAM lockdown they've implemented on the R1.

If you want faster RAM I reckon you need to take the Dell branded RAM that seems almost impossible to find anywhere outside of Dell.

 

Well, faster Dell branded RAM is an oxymoron (unless they supply better RAM with their Precisions, and that RAM actually would work faster with 51M R2). They've locked people out of third party RAM (or just soldered it) specifically so they can charge people high premium for the likely worst RAM on the market. A quick google for "2933 SODIMM CL22" revealed nothing other than the fact that this Dell memory has same CL as Kingston Value RAM, their cheapest I believe....

 

I think any 2933 ram will work i think if you want the 3200 XMP stuff it has to be dell branded.

100 on stock clocks. 97 with -100mv undervolt.

 

Not much gain with such high timings and latency. I expect everything of ram settings in bios or OC software is fully locked down on the Area-51M2. Not much have changed since Area 51M R1.

This is results from EL Cheapo 2133MHz OEM ram overclocked to 2800MHz in my Clevo P870 from 2015.

 

Someone very generously gave me a key so here are the full benchmark stats.



And yes the overclock settings in the bios are locked out.

 

Sorry to spam. Just installed BIOS update 1.2.0 and it looks to be an upgrade.

Cores clocked much higher.



Cinebench got a huge bump.

 

Really looks like they're finally trying to correct their previous mistakes

 

That's insane!! Thank you so much for these benchmarks! Keeps me entertained in this long wait for my machine!

 

It's like 400 mghz higher and the temps are lower, how is it even possible

 

Just for reference, here are my memory benchmarks from my R1 with Micron 32GB 2400 MHz DDR4 RAM :



PS: When I first got my R1, the Performance Option was greyed out in the BIOS. Simply resetting the BIOS to defaults, save and exit, then re-entering, unlocked it.

 

It’s stock thermal velocity boost single core for 10900K

1 core at max boost doesn’t create much more heat.

 

That he didn't have before on his previous benchmarks