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    *OFFICIAL* Alienware 17 R2/R3 Benchmark Thread

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by Mr. Fox, Dec 10, 2014.

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    Can't wait to do some benchmarks with the Titan X.
     
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    If it'll fit, that is.
     
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    I'll find a way to force it in if its being difficult
     
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    i just received my 17R2 yesterday and did some firestrike tests.
    8314 with latest nvidia drivers, A02 bios and 180W psu
    is this a good score, should i contact dell for a 240W PSU ?

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/6142597?
     
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    That is on par with the 240psu thats impressive. I think you are good to go but if you can get the 240 for free why not!
     
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    Yes, get the 240W PSU, because that will enable you to charge the battery AND game at the same time, plus it will allow for better overclocking (overclocking with the 180W PSU is likely to lead to throttling, especially if you overclock the CPU too using XTU), and the 240W PSU will be less stressed so will have a longer life too.
     
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    Yes that's pretty good. I just ran a benchmark with the G751JY, very similar results.

    http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/6158109
     
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    For any of you who are curious, here are the benchmark scores for the AW17 R1 (not the R2) using both the 180w and 240w PSU.

    180W
    Firestrike: 4952

    240w
    Firestrike: 7960

    ASUS ROG G751JY
    Firestrike: 8460

    Here are the respective max temps

    3DMark (240w)
    CPU: 75
    GPU: 70

    3DMark (180w)
    CPU: 74
    GPU: 59

    3DMark (G751)
    CPU: 80
    GPU: 72
     
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    It's funny. I want to clock them down! I'm crazy right? So far I managed to cock the cpu down to 2800mhz, and I hope to shut down the Nvidia boost aswell.
    This computer whines so hard when the fans spins up, I had the aw18 with 2 graphics cards, and that one was way mopre silent, even at full load.

    I wish somebody can upload a youtube teardown of the R2. I want te repaste, to save some c*
     
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    Thinner laptop = Worse cooling of the hardware .. physics law. :rolleyes:
     
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    Got system shutdown (orange screen) for CPU overheating while stressing the laptop on Sniper Elite V2 with everything maxed out, more than 100 FPSs and a maximum of 73°C from the GPU.
    Since my CPU already reaches 75-80°C while playing other games, is possible that the 180w PSU bottleneck tends to raise the CPU temperatures? Will 240w PSU improve these temperatures?
     
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    On the contrary, the 180w PSU will lower your temps. Since it doesn't provide enough power for your GPU to really ramp up, your GPU will operate at lower clock speeds, thereby producing less heat.
     
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    I read that Nvidia is supposed to be enabling overclock capabilities again for the 9 series mobile cards... but with latest driver update I am still unable to. Don't they have it limited via the vbios? Is there even an eta on when this will be fixed? All my games run perfect except I wanna push Metro to ssaa x3 or x4 and play around with some overclocking.
     
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    just got my replacement system in, with the 240 watt psu and A02, the cpu during intense games still locks back to 2.5ghz and wont boost unless i stop the game or tab out of it for a few seconds.....no clue whats going on here
     
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    That's because you don't understand how intel turbo boost works.

    It's not an overclock. Basically the way it works is the CPU constantly monitors how many cores are in use and how much heat the processor is generating and then decides whats the best way to get more performance out of the CPU.

    If you running an application that is multi-threaded and can take advantage of all 4 cores (well 8 threads if you take into account hyperthreading but we won't talk about that) your processor will clock itself to it's base clock rate. So in your case that is 2.5ghz. 2.5ghz over 4 cores is much better than 1 core running at 3.5ghz (ghz doesn't always mean better performance) in some situations.

    Now when you alt tab out, you reduce the load on your cpu and even though windows is extremely good at multithreading there are times when it simply doesn't need all 4 cores working so the CPU "shuts off" 1, 2, or 3 cores depending on the circumstances and then boosts the remaining cores up (or if you have extremely low load then it underclocks the CPU to save power). If you only have 1 core being used and your temperatures are fine then the CPU will boost up to the max boost frequency (for the 4710HQ that's 3.5ghz)

    That is perfectly normal and how intel turbo boost works. You'll never see all 4 cores being used and your CPU being boosted to 3.5...it just won't happen unless you overclock.
     
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    I know how turbo boost works buddy, ive been using gaming laptops and building since I was 10. The issue here is it should boost to atleast 3.2ghz and hold during these games as every laptop and desktop I've had has. I had a GS70, and Asus g751, AW18R2, G750, and none of those clocked down to 2.5 during these games. It should hold at 3.2ghz, given the CPU usage across 4 cores, temps, and power draw I'm seeing as I monitor. This is unique to this specific model, as the other current models do not down-clock like this
     
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    So your monitoring shows you're only using one core during those games?
     
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    nope its using all 4 cores. I was able to fix the issue mostly by using throttlestop. Now the clocks stay around 3.2 when all 4 cores are in use
     
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    Edit: disregard seems he solved it.
     
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    I posted this in another thread that died but figured I'd post this here. I'm having (in my opinion) horrible performance out of my week old 4170/8gb/SSD/980m machine. I play DayZ and the system is just chugging with minimal settings. I have a 2/3 year old X51 desktop with a 3770/8GB/SSD/GTX555 and it's running circles around my 17. I run the X51 at 1920x1080 with medium settings and the game runs fine ~30-40fps. I try the same settings with the new laptop and seem to be hitting around 20-30fps. I have the 240w power supply as I immediately called to get one sent to me the day it arrived in the mail.

    I've had driver issues from the start (sometimes GeForce experience says no Geforce card recognized) and have tried many different versions of drivers with no better results. I even tried to go back to the 344.74/80 or whatever it was that some had success with and when trying to install, the drivers say there is no video card installed that is compatible with these drivers. I'm currently running 347.71.

    I ran the Unigine benchmark and that seems to run well and utilize the full performance of what this system can do but DayZ on the other hand it almost seems as though it doesn't know how to handle it (I've verified its not using integrated graphics on this game as I've forced it to do so and the Geforce icon shows DayZ is being run with the card). Am I an idiot to think this laptop should be running circles around my Alienware desktop with a 3 year old GTX555?

    EDIT: I just installed Arma III and that game running on most everything high or ultra and it runs smooth as butter. Both Arma III and DayZ are relatively the same game engine. I wonder if the 980 and/or NVidia drivers have an issue with DayZ since my GTX555 runs it fine.

    MSI Afterburner also shows incorrect or irrelevant values so I'm not sure what to take of that other than using the graphs for temp readings.
    What the graph looks like after running DayZ for 5 minutes in town.
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    What the graph looks like when running the Unigine benchmark on ExtremeHD.
    [​IMG]

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    so the issue with the HQ cpus in these systems has been resolved on my end. I under volted the cpu by -100mv and no longer go over the TDP of 47watts. This keeps the boost clocks in full force during all games now and the downclocking to base clocks has vanished
     
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    That's good news HG, are you able to show how you did that?
     
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    Using Intel XTU?
     
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    yeah, but i just confirmed that after 30 minutes of gaming the clocks went back to 2.5ghz again....this is pretty ridiculous for a 2100 dollar machine....
     
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    guys is this result good or not !!!

    [​IMG]

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    That result is perfectly normal
     
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    This is an AW 17r2 with a more powerful i7-4980BGA .. Tragic ..
    Look.. http://eu.alienwarearena.com/forums...ware-17r2-core-temperatures/last#post-1051997
     
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    Look at your score in Fire strike .. Low .. :eek: Many have higher scores with other brands.
     
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    hello guys, i have a question, i just received my 240W PSU from Dell and i was wondering:
    my 180W has output 19.5V and 9.23A
    my 240W has output 19.5V and 12.3A
    Isn't the 12.3A too much for the AW17 R2?
     
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    Too little ... :rolleyes: :D
     
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    I agree, wish i still had my 330 watt
     
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    Those who not get a free 240W power supply from Dell, can turn down Fx lighting and lower the light on the screen or connect the AW to another screen .. :p
     
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    so doesnt 12.3A brick my system? or how does this Ampere, Volt and Watt work?
     
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    Be happy with your 240w power supply. You can also use 330w. No problems. Bigger is better :)
     
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    i did 3dmark firestrike test with my new 240W and got exactly the same results as with my 180W.
     
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    Hi.

    How do you observe your CPU clock speed while you are gaming?
    I would like to test this on my own system.
     
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    Volt x Ampere = Watt. Your machine is typically rated for a certain input V, from what I know. So pretty much any 19.5V PSU with the matching connector should work. Increasing the Amps simply increases total Watts delivered.

    So no, it won't brick your system.
     
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    What GPU did you get - 970M or 980M?
     
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    No, it is not. A device will only draw as many amperes as it requires. Using the 330W psu with even more amps, will cause no damage. It is a voltage increase that could cause damage to some components, which is why the PSUs are all 19.5 volts.

    In my opinion, the 240W supply is not enough for people wishing to overclock. But this is more or less educated speculation on my part.
     
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    Mr. Fox's tests showed that these components, when O/Cd, require at least a 330w PSU. The GTX 980M draws a lot of power when O/Cd.

    So it is actually fact, not just an educated speculation.

    However, at stock speeds (paired with the i7-4710), the 240W PSU is enough.
     
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    Well at stock clocks and any of the CPUs that alienware offers. The 4980HQ and 4710HQ have the same TDP.

    Even under heavy real world usage (ie no benchmarking, no overclocking etc) you shouldn't be exceeding that TDP. Now when you run benchmarks its quite possible to exceed that and then a 330W PSU might come in handy.

    It's kindoff weird, component wise both the R1 and the R2 have the same power draw. Both laptop CPUs (4700,4710,4910,4980) draw 47W TDP, both GPUs (780/980) draw 122W, and then you have all the other components...and yet Dell thought it was a good idea to stick in a 180W PSU...The GPU and CPU under heavy load draw 170W by themselves...
     
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    I was too lazy to go back and check for Mr.Fox's post again, so I wanted to just put my disclaimer on it in case I didn't remember correctly.

    I did a quick calculation before, basing numbers off Mr.Fox's test and other component specs, but it's possible with the 4980HQ, 980m and 16GB ram + harddrive to require over 240W just running everything at stock clocks.
     
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    I have coretemp, cpuz, or HWinfo running in the background. After about 15 minutes of gaming i will alt-tab out and check the clocks or the clock logs.
     
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    This is my score with A02 and a 240watt psu

    Firestrike: http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/6223597?

    Im still very angry these HQ cpu's throttle during heavy gaming. In some games that love cpu power it tanks my fps by 10-15. Hopefully they can somehow figure this out in a bios update
     
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    It might take a long time .......... :rolleyes:
     
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