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    New Alienware 17 R4: should I be concerned about temps? Data attached.

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by Zukasha, Mar 25, 2017.

  1. Zukasha

    Zukasha Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hi there,
    I've picked up a nice new Alienware 17 R4 but unsure about the temps. Compared to others, they seem a little high. With that said, they seem steady and relatively well-balanced. If the temps are of notable concern I do have the ability to do a full return within 14 days.
    For this data set I played Overwatch for roughly an hour at max settings.
    Here's the data for the pros to look at. I look forward to your feedback :)
    Temps.PNG
     
  2. don_svetlio

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    Seems fine to me. 80*C is nothing to worry about. Only if temps get above 92*C should you be worried.

    Try a more demanding game like Witcher 3 or something - just to see what your heavy load values are.
     
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    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    Yeah the temps looks good and the clock speed too on stock Dell paste. Just keep a tab on Toshiba m.2 SSD if it get very hot abnormally.
     
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    That's not an M.2 SSD - it's a HDD :D
     
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    Vasudev Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    I think there is an SSD otherwise you would increase in temp of HDD when in use.
     
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    HDD temps only increase when you're actively writing or reading large quantities of information. Simply having the OS on it and running a browser does not affect thermals at all.
     
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    I had my doubts. So, when you play Overwatch for long periods. That's the reason why I asked is there an SSD?
    Yes if HDD is idle, then temps won't increase. I think Hitachi HDD in gaming laptops are insanely good.
     
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    Zukasha Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thank you everyone for the responses, it's greatly appreciated. I'm going to try a more extended gaming session tonight with my brother and will continue to track the temps. I'll give the updates afterwards :)

    Aside from running a game like Witcher 3 (which I heard is a beast to run), is there a stress test I can run to simulate a more intensive game? I'm just getting back to computer gaming and only have Overwatch thus far ;)

    Cheers!
     
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    Try 3D Mark: Fire Strike stress test for overall maximum load.

    For a realistic heavy load simulation - Witcher 3 or any other similarly demanding game.
     
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    Zukasha Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for that--3D Mark will be part of my testing tonight :)
    Appreciate all the help, definite stress reliever!
     
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    you should make an undervolt to the cpu, you will reduce 5°C at least.
     
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    That is VERY helpful, thank you for sharing! I will definitely give this a go and let you know how it goes. Cheers :)
     
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    Alright, I did some gaming last night with the following results:
    Temp2.PNG

    Seems to be relative stability there; when idling during the gaming session it seemed to be more in the high 60, low 70 range for all cores. The "highs" displayed seem to fall outside the normal gaming temperatures.

    I trialed ETU for undervolting potential, but with the baseline voltage settings it ran no higher than 72 degrees during the stress test (ran a quick 5 minute test; no change from minute 1 to minute 5, very steady temps throughout). Is this still worth playing with for improved cooling, or is this an indication that everything is running quite well as is?

    Thanks for your continued feedback!
     
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    Still seems fine to me for gaming loads.
     
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    Zukasha Notebook Enthusiast

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    Thanks for the feedback!
    Do you think undervolting would still be worth pursuing?

    Cheers!
     
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    Why not? I certainly wouldn't hurt anything if you drop the temps by 4-5*C
     
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    Haha fair point, thanks!
    I'll update when I get some results.
     
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    So I played with ETU and currently have settled with -0.10 V with very nice results. See the comparison of max temps between two gaming sessions. The second one is with the undervolting.
    Temp2.PNG

    And with undervolting:
    GamingTemp0.1VII.PNG

    So wanted to share the results and thank everyone for their feedback and support re: temperatures. Helped ease my anxiety on the matter and definitely helped support the longevity of this awesome machine. Cheers!
     
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