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    Need configuration help ASAP

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by daveh98, Nov 18, 2016.

  1. daveh98

    daveh98 P4P King

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    Hey I accidentally posted in the wrong forum a few days ago (It's been awhile since being here). I just ordered for about 1900US:
    i7 6700, 1440p, 16gig ram, 256ssd+1 terabyte hdd, 1070 nvidia

    1. Should I switch the processor out to the 6820 and change the screen for compatibility to the FHD 1080? Will the 6700 bottleneck me? I am reading that it's about as strong as my 3 year old 4910qm which concerns me.

    2. The amount off the systems are pretty significant and when the 1080 comes around the corner I'm unsure if deals will be had for awhile. I'm fine with high settings on 1440p with 1070 Vs the same settings at 4k. Is the cost difference of both the increased price of the GPU+decreased sales % worth it? It seems like the 1080 is about 25% better than the 1070?

    Should I quickly make any changes to my screen and CPU based on my question above? How many would just cancel the order for the 1080? I'm upgrading from 880m SLI so the 1070 is still quite a bump in power. Plus I am also ordering LG SIGNATURE 65 Inch 4K Ultra HD Smart TV OLED65B6P UHD TV with LG BP155 Blu-ray Disc Player Bundle at 3,000US which is my big purchase. So as you can see, I am trying to get "bang for your buck" from the Laptop itself due to the TV purchase! Thanks all
    Dave
     
  2. Mobius 1

    Mobius 1 Notebook Nobel Laureate

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    1. Absolutely, the 6700HQ is similar to commiting suicide!

    2. If you play at 1080p or 1440p the 1070 is okay. 1080 will last you longer (but I recommend keeping laptops for less than a year). 4K wise, the 1080 still struggles.
     
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    Hi would you mind elaborate on why you recommend keeping laptops for less than a year?
     
  4. daveh98

    daveh98 P4P King

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    Thanks Mobius. So the 6820 will not be compatible with the 1440p screen correct? I'd have to use a 1440p monitor externally then? I feel like it's not quite a super easy decision to let go of the 1440p screen. Why do you say the 6700 is "like committing suicide"?! Is it that big of a difference and I am that bottlenecked? Any other input is greatly welcomed as I still have time to change the configuration. I keep laptops longer than a year so it may be worth getting the 1080 but I have been fine with my 780m SLI (replaced with 880m SLI) since August of 2013 so either card is a huge upgrade and my current system plays most everything fine.
     
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    Well with the current laptop not being able to upgrade, it is better to just sell it after 9-10 months and get a new one completely with new features etc.
    The current pascal generation is BIG leap of improvements (GPU aside) from the previous generation, not to mention the possibility in the future with upgraded port/interface/connection etc.





    The 6820HK is compatible with the GSYNC, but you have to talk to a rep and bug them that it's compatible (or the option don't show up in the configurator until you select a particular combo). I'll get back to you on this topic later.

    The 3K (1440p) 120Hz 5ms 17" has a banding issue, check the Clevo subforum for this complaint since they got the majority of the screen batch. AW has this same problem too since the screen used is exactly the same.

    6700HQ is worse than suicide. It's the SLOWEST quad core CPU that Intel has put out in years (it got outpaced by @Prema 's 3rd gen Ivy bridge 3740QM) and is comparatively very weak to the 6820HK.

    The 6820HK has a lot of potential (aside from being slightly faster at bone stock), you can push the CPU all the way to 4GHz+ and gain the CPU power (not just for games). Battlefield 1 and The Division is such an example of games that requires strong CPU and GPU power to run efficiently.

    Credit to @D2 Ultima

    And don't forget you can still microcode hack a 4th gen HQ CPU to run as an XM CPU.
     
  6. rinneh

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    I run a 6700hq with a 1070 and it is faster than my overclocked sandy bridge desktop cpu's and ivy bridge is not much better at all so i highly doubt it. in the end the 6700hq does not bottleneck any game i play by the way and see's about 60% of usage in the heaviest games that i play now (bf1 is one of them).

    The HK is only better if you overclock it but you have to repaste for that.

    The older generation cpu's lag a bit behind when it comes to floating point operations.
     
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    The 6700HQ is fine. The 1070 will not have any issue.
     
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    Thank you for the replies; it seems pretty divided. I think I will be OK going with the 6700 with the 1070 so that is OK. Now the million dollar question. Strong rumor has it that the 1080 debuts tomorrow. If so, are there ANY reasons to stick with the 1070? I can afford to spend another few hundred but don't' believe it's worth more than a 500 dollar premium. I think the 1070 can handle 1440p for quite awhile but the 1080 seems to offer a bit more future proofing. My concern will be if there are cooling issues now, the 1080 may exacerbate these issues more so. Decisions decisions.
     
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    The cooling system seems to be really good the problem has been the CPU heatsink and paste. Every benchmark I've seen the 1070 running really cool even on stock paste. I can't imagine the 1080 being an issue.
     
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    Thanks to the forum information I decided to just get the computer I would have wished I got in the first place. I ordered the Alienware 17 with the 6820, 16 gig ram, 1080, 1440p, upgraded wifi and standard everything else. I am really excited for the system as it's a worthy upgrade to my Alienware 18 with 880m SLI (original system was 780m SLI). I really want the 1440p screen as the 4k screen is just a bit too much screen real estate for me and I like playing all games at native resolution. Given that I don't use an external display (yet), I think 1440p is the sweet spot for the 1070/1080 GPUs.