IPS on AW15 but not AW17 - Give us a IPS Pannel on a the new AW 17 !!!

Based on Alienware Gaming Laptops it seems only the AW15 has IPS panel, the AW17 not. Correct?

 

I know tell me about IT!! it is pathetic!!!

Why are they not offering us a 4k IPS screen on the 17inch when it would be more of an advantage, due to the bigger screen size. and who cares if games cant run in 4k we will scale them down. the main thing here is.. why is there no IPS pannel on the 17inch

And what about the 18? where is the new model of that.. where is the thinner SLI 980m with a 4k screen? i wouldnt mind if it was 2560 by 1440! as long as it had an IPS screen.

im very very upset with the new model line up.. seems like the only way to get a good screen is to get a 13inch or a 15 inch.. which i do not want..
i want an 18inch with 4k display and 2 gtx 980ms.

When will that come out.



well just found out that they stopped the Alienwear 18 lol
good job DELL

that was the only computer i was looking forward to!!!

guess you guys could not handle the price fall

 

This is from the 17's product page.
Some reading comprehension would do some good. All of the Alienware 2015 laptops with at least a 1080p display have IPS panels.
NazGolo, as far as I am aware, there aren't any 17.3" displays that have a resolution higher than 1080p. They haven't been made yet, so that's why were are seeing any QHD or 4k displays on 17" notebooks. Same applies to 18" laptops (the very little that exist).
And the 18 has been discontinued for now.

 

I didn't know that. But it's not clear on the web site.

 

What are you guys doing?

why are you putting QHD displays in 13 and 15inchs

Do it for the 17inch where the screen is larger! and you can take advantage from the Extra DPI


The most annoying thing to me.. failing the fact that they have stopped the AW 18!
is that the new AW 17 still has an awful Screen

This is 2015

all laptops should have at least an IPS pannel, with 2k or 4k display

 

According to their review with maximum pc all their laptops have ips displays and that is why they haven't come out with a higher res option for the 17 yet. There simply isn't a 17 inch panel out there that "meets their standards". Weather this a line of BS or not I have no idea. Just repeating what alienware said.

Yea i saw the same thing that game7a said. There will probably be a higher res panel available as soon as one of the panel manufacturers start manufacturing them

 

Guess i am just doomed to wait more!

thanks for the info

 

no problem that's one of the reasons I'll probably buy a 15 next.... and welcome to NBR

 

I would rather have a decent 1080p ips panel than a 4k until windows and developers actually make apps high DPI aware. I have a 3k panel and run it at 1080p as there were too many issues at 3k

 

Found it! On the "Feature & design" web site section Alienware 17 Notebook | Dell

[...]Built for intense gaming.
Lean and mean on a big screen: Enjoy IPS (in-plane switching)-based LCD technology on an expansive 17" screen that offers stunningly clear color and clarity. The Alienware 17 is available with Full HD display, or you can choose Full HD display with a touch screen option. Get up to 1920x1080 pixel density for astonishing color clarity, and extra wide viewing angles.

IPS and touch mean a more awesome display: IPS panel technology decreases lag, and provides accurate color from all viewing angles. Optional touch technology with TrueLife high-gloss display brings you closer to the action. [...]

So it seems also AW17 has IPS.

 

Not much point in burning calories over the display when the rest of the machine has been castrated with two RAM slots, a low-TDP BGA mounted CPU and BGA GPUs with less vRAM than the MXM equivalent and no ability to upgrade the critically important features. You cannot even say not to sweat the small stuff because the big stuff is where all of the serious engineering problems reside.

 

Eh, IPS is over rated on a laptop screen anyway, unless you sit at at the screen at a 45 degree angle. I realize the colors are abit nicer but Id take a 120hz screen over a 60hz IPS any day of the week. As mentioned the screen is the least of their problems.

 

@Mr.Fox

i put the screen into "big stuff". The display is important for me.

 

I understand what you are saying and I do not disagree with you. It would be important to me also, as long as the rest of the system was up to par. Having an awesome display won't fix other design defects.

 

I just quoted that to you earlier and provided where it was.
Really?

 

OLED monitor for the win

 

@Game7a1

Sorry, i quoted before think. My mistake.

 

This needs to happen.
Flaick, it's alright.

 

I couldn't say it better Mr Fox.. It's a welcome upgrade but really they screwed the whole pooch up with BGA junk..

 

I have a OLED Playstation Vita before they changed over to LCD, oh my god the difference is night an day. I don't understand why there isn't a bigger push on OLED

 

They do look amazing. Use has been primarily limited to smaller devices like smartphones and devices such as the Vita. I have heard that OLED screens don't last as long and some colors (blue variants in particular) tend to lose clarity and vibrance and black start to look cloudy as the screens age, and they are more susceptible to failure or damage from moisture. I think they might be considerably more expensive to manufacture as well.

 

Scroll down to features and designs, then to built for intense gaming.

 

Quite right, I hit "save" instead of cancel on that last post, as I read that part on the Dell website while typing this up.

 

It's going to be a useful post nonetheless.
The more that know, the better.

 

had to lawl at the part when they said: " IPS panel technology decreases lag". Its actually quite the opposite. Come on alienware do your homework!!

 

I think IPS is way overrated, especially where gaming and benching are concerned. It can actually be a disadvantage to have it. IPS has become a popularity item or status symbol among people that want whatever other people say is good to have. There's nothing not to like about a high quality TN panel and I would rather spend the money saved on something else. Dell's write-up on it is typical corporate marketing hype designed to sell product to folks that believe everything posted on the internet has to be accurate. The only test that matters is what you think about it after you buy it.

 

I have one of the best TN panels made sitting next to a korean ips monitor. I personally like the ips screen better for browsing and watching stuff as the color reproduction seems more clear to me, but when it comes to gaming, its all about that TN 144hz@1440p I know quite a few folks over at OCN won't touch a TN panel with a 20ft stick still. They swear by IPS. Just personal preference though.

 

True. My old Dell Inspiron 17 SE had an amazing TN panel. Extremely wide viewing angles that almost rivaled those on an IPS panel, and good colour reproduction too. Very bright.

Just because it's an IPS panel doesn't make it good - and just because it's a TN panel doesn't mean it's bad. Now, your average IPS panel is better than your average TN panel (in my experience, anyway). But that doesn't make IPS > TN a hard rule.

The problem I've found is that it's very hard to find a really good TN panel.

 

Yup, all personal preference. At the end of the day, all that matters is whether or not the individual is pleased with what they purchased. The bigger regrets are going to come from people that haven't experienced how miserable it is to use a screen with too many pixels crammed into a tiny 15" or 17" space, and what a huge framerate hit 3K and 4K brings. Scaling is poor, requires a ton of fiddle-farting with Optimus/Enduro (something discrete-only laptop and desktop owners don't have to deal with) and sometimes still doesn't work well. Being forced into playing games in a letterbox (huge black border) with a tiny viewable area in the middle or borderless window mode at non-native resolutions is going to make a lot of folks unhappy that don't have a clue what they are getting into. Even with an 18" display, 2560x1400 is about the max pixels I can tolerate comfortably on such a small screen.

 

Indeed. I sometimes find even 1080p on a 15" screen to be borderline for my personal tastes. It's just so small.

A matter of preference, but 1080p on a 17" screen I think is the sweet spot for me. However, I can stand a 15" just because I like how light and portable that size usually is.

I must say I started laughing seeing those new 13.3" Clevo laptops offered with 3k screens.

 

Agree. I think 1080p is the sweet spot for 15" to 18" also. It's just about ideal for me. Enough pixels to look excellent without screwing up or complicating everything else in the process. 1080p is OK on 15" although things are pretty small. I have good eyesight, so it's not downright miserable, but any higher than 1080p resolution on 15" makes text uncomfortably small for reading. If you have to use a laptop for work, using Excel below 1080p at any screen size is just a nasty scroll-fest.

 

Wish I could see that 4k screen in person... though I agree 4k isn't really feasible right now. Its barely feasible on the desktop right now. Really need at least two 980's to run at 4k and even then sometimes that's not enough horsepower.

 

1440p would work on a 17.3" so long as it was a very high quality panel.

 

yea 1440p would be perfect for SLI systems. Might still be a bit to much resolution for a single 980m and newer/future titles.

 

Sorry guys for opening this useless discussion. I didn't read the informations at bottom of web site. My mistake.

 

I actually asked customer service just now if the Alienware 17 also had an IPS screen since they are relatively unclear on the site, and their response was the panel on the Alienware 17 is NOT IPS. That's somewhat of a deal breaker for me at least, so I think I might personally go with the 15 If customer service was right. I am very disappointed.

 

Customer service is not right.
If you don't believe the description of the 17 R2's configuration page, ask a onwer of a 17 R2 to see if they got an IPS display. Simple. If they say no, customer service was right. If they say yes, c.s. was wrong.
Sometimes, customer service provides erroneous facts.

 

I got the same info from three different reps. I watched the release video with the guy talking about it and saying it was. I escalated a technical inquiry and got the answer. Allegedly they notified marketing that the 15's SPECIFICALLY state IPS and the 17's don't when you are on the main portion of the customization page. When you read near the bottom they both say IPS.

Nonetheless, to make a long thing short, the displays are IPS for sure. It's been verified by part no, and by my eyes and many others. I got to see the Matte screen today and its awesome. But the True Life with touch is the finest non-4k display I have ever seen. There is no comparison. Get it, the glare isn't that bad considering its of the glossy type. its a small $150 upcharge and you can probably bargain that off.

 

It's the same panel as the ASUS ROG G751 and the Acer V Nitro.

LG Display LP173WF4-SPF1 Overview - Panelook.com

 

I've not verified the part number, but I can say with full commitment that the screen is fantastic. Throttling aside, I'm very happy with how vibrant colors are and how great the screen looks.

 

It most likely is... it's seems that only LG is making 17.3" IPS screens for laptops.. Now if this screen works with P771ZM or a version is made for it^^^

 

Last time I checked, they said that the 17" share the same motherboard with the 15". The 15"s displays are eDP, so there - it is compatible

 

Yeah it looks like this is the case.. It's seems that Schenker have confirmed that in mid Feb onwards they'll be offering the above LG screen with P771ZM..

 

Did you get the touch or non touch?

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