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    How to have the ssd nvme temperature ?

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by NicolasLoriot, Feb 17, 2017.

  1. NicolasLoriot

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    Hello,

    Whatever i use HwInfo or Hwmonitor, i can't see the temperature of my toshiba (stock) ssd. It only display the capacity wich is used...

    I'm only able to see the temp of my data ssd wich is a 850 evo.

    Do you know how i could display it ? (in setup, all sensors are tick)

    15r3
    the toshiba is my os disk for sure

    Thank you
     
  2. Mobius 1

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  3. NicolasLoriot

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    Ty, i followed it.

    Now i have two new sensor that are displayed in Dell EC
    There named DIMM and Temp5

    It's the only difference i have compared to what i had before.

    Is one of this 2 the sensor of nvme temp ?
     
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    Delete the HWiNFO ini file and relaunch HWiNFO. You should see SSD temps under S.M.A.R.T. Info for each drive. If that does not work, you may have a box unchecked in HWiNFO settings that needs to be selected.
     
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  5. NicolasLoriot

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    I already did that, and i still only have smart for my samsung drive, and nothing for the toshiba...
     
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    Do we know 100% for sure they have thermal sensors on the Toshiba SSD? What does CrystalDiskInfo show for temps?
     
  7. NicolasLoriot

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    It only recognize my data disk ... it doesn't detect the toshiba...

    [​IMG]
     
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    OK, well that in itself is very enlightening. Perhaps the SSD does not have any S.M.A.R.T. sensors. Lack of thermal sensors is sometimes true with RAM modules as well. G.SKILL DDR4 modules have it. My Kingston HyperX Impact DDR4 modules do not. If CrystalDiskInfo shows nothing, I am not surprised HWiNFO64 shows nothing. Maybe check the Toshiba web site for specs on that drive to find out what is supported. Does it have the latest firmware?

    Edit: also check to see if Toshiba has an SSD toolbox. Maybe it will tell you more information regarding temps and what not.

    Here is what I have enabled on the Tornado F5...
    [​IMG]
     
  9. Pete Light

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    I have the same query/question and I'm sure I've seen other 512GB Toshiba users posting temps of their nvme ssds

    Sent from my SM-G935F using Tapatalk
     
  10. NicolasLoriot

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    I have the 256 GB...

    Otherwise i put it on the other pcie port, and it's still the same, no smart for the toshiba ssd
     
  11. Neal0790

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    I cant see the temps on my SSD either, tried all the steps above.
     
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    my SK hynix PC300 PCI-E doesnt report ssd temp in hwinfo too.
     
  14. QuillP

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    Any way to know the temperature of ssd RAID with hwinfo? I only see read/write activity of the volume raid.
     
    Last edited: Feb 18, 2017
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    I think switching to non-RAID or AHCI will expose the temperature sensor readings and other infos like Lifetime reads and writes, spare cells, cell wear levels etc.
     
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    Yeah, but the idea is to keep the raid volume
     
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    Did Hard Disk Sentinel report any values like temps etc.?
     
  18. cope123abc

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    I wonder if it's anything firmware related? they released a firmware update last week for nvme.
     
  19. Tikerz

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    This is correct. I just did this with my new 17 R3. In order to switch to AHCI without BSOD you have to do an advanced reboot to safe mode. Upon boot you have to enter BIOS and change to AHCI mode. Then save it. Then upon next boot you should have option to choose Safe Mode. Once you enter safe mode you can uninstall the storage controller so there's no driver there. Then reboot and the storage controller driver should be Microsoft NVM instead of RAID. Then you will be able to see the SMART data on your NVMe drive.

    Alternatively you can try these steps I found but haven't tried myself:

    • Boot to Windows with your current SATA controller configuration
    • Open Device Manager
    • Expand Storage Controllers and identify the Intel SATA RAID Controller
    • View properties of the identified controller
    • On the Driver tab, click the Update driver… button
    • Browse my computer…, Let me pick…
    • Uncheck Show compatible hardware
    • Select Microsoft as manufacturer
    • Select Microsoft Storage Spaces Controller as model3
    • Accept that Windows cannot confirm that this driver is compatible
    • Save changes, reboot to BIOS and change RAID SATA Controller to AHCI
    • Save changes and reboot normally, hopefully to Windows
     
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  20. Vasudev

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    @Tikerz: Please add this step. Uninstalling Intel RAID driver in safe mode
     
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    I always wondered why my only drive was set as RAID when I got it out of box.
     
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    Raid was the default setup for older AW models. Dell has probably followed the same rule.
     
  23. Tikerz

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    That's probably a good idea but I didn't have to do that. It detected the NVM driver upon first boot after Safe Mode because AHCI mode was active in BIOS. I added it anyways. Thanks!
     
  24. Neal0790

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    So i tried those steps and now i cant boot back into windows.
     
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    Go back into the BIOS and change back to RAID.
     
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    Yeah, and then use Windows register tweaks for changing from Raid to AHCI.
     
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    Just do this to enable AHCI in Windows 10 after a install using raid
    1)Enable a safe mode boot by running the Command Prompt in Admin mode and enter
    'bcdedit /set {current} safeboot minimal' Reboot
    2)enable AHCI in the Bios
    3)Boot into windows safe mode, and run the Command Prompt in Admin mode and enter to disable safe mode boot
    'bcdedit /deletevalue {current} safeboot' Reboot
    4) Reboot into windows normally and install Magician and drivers if applicable
     
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