How to FIX AW17R4/15R3/13R3 CPU Core Temperature Differential Issue

Sorry for the self quote, but I thoughts I'd give an update to this saga as there is quite a lot to tell. As before, the starting point is my laptop was overheating (worse than any other machine on this thread that I've seen) and the QHD screen had the horizontal lines issue.

An engineer/tech visited my home on 27th June. Replaced the QHD screen which now looks much better. Regarding the heating issues, he replaced the heatsink and fans and it did the trick. My CPU temps went from 100C downloading a game to max 74C under a gaming load. it turned out that the laptop CPU was missing almost all of it's thermal pads (nice "certified refurbished" laptop...). Happy with the temps. However, when the tech put my machine back together the Alienware head on the back of the screen/the lid stopped lighting up. The tech didn't know why, called Dell for help, and eventually it was agreed that they'd send a replacement back panel.

Yesterday, the same tech (very nice chap I should add) arrived and replaced the entire back panel/lid of my laptop. Took over 2 hours, he switched it on and.....the light still doesn't work. He thinks it must be the board that lights the Alienware text above the power button that is faulty.

Got a call today and Dell basically said they've now spent too much time and money on this laptop and just want me to return it. No replacement offered. The only compensation (if you can call it that) is a 15% discount that can only be used on new computers with Dell, not on the Outlet. Considering I used a 20% discount code when I bought this laptop, that's not much use.

All in all, a poor experience. A shame as the laptop is beautiful and the customer services guys have been very friendly, as was the tech who visited. I've no issues with the individuals I've dealt with. However, the end result is that the laptop will be returned and I've wasted 4 full days waiting around on people for it (2 days for delivery as the first time the courier sent it to the wrong depot, and 2 days on tech visits), ultimately for nothing. Actually, might be 5 days, as they'll send someone to pick it up and I'll need to be in, but that hasn't been arranged yet. A waste of everyone's time :-(

Hope you all have better luck than me. Still, for those with thermal issues, there is hope. I seen a huge difference.

 

Listen man. Dell is pretty f'ing incompetent.

Have you straight up just asked for an exchange, instead of constant repairs? You have to be direct with them.

I had issues with my refurb 17r4 from day 1 so I straight up asked for an exchange the first time I called them. They said they couldn't exchange unless they'd attempted to repair the computer twice without resolution. I sent it in for repair twice, but different problems still persisted, so they granted me an exchange.

In regards to them only offering you a discount..

After tech support guy tells me they'll exchange the system, he transfers the call over to a guy from the exchange department. Exchange department guy tells me he can't exchange it because it's an Outlet purchase, only option is return or discount to keep it. I hang up and call tech support back, tell tech support guy that exchange guy refused to exchange bc Outlet refurb. Tech support guy tells me it was already approved and exchange department guy should have set me up for an exchange. He transfers me over to exchange department again. I talk to a new guy from the exchange department. New guy tells me he doesn't know why the other guy didn't want to exchange it,that he was supposed to, and that he'd be reporting the guy to his supervisor for lying to me and refusing to do his job.

So there ya go Dell is pretty f'ing incompetent. Maybe you got a guy who just didn't want to deal with you, like I did. I'm in the US. The process might be different over in the UK, but you might want to try one more time. Give tech support a call back and ask for an exchange.


BTW I received the exchange yesterday. They built me a brand new 17r4. Came in the retail box and everything. Only problem? They built it using the same crap AUO panel, and it still has 10-15°C difference between the cores. Hell, it even has the bezel and webcam from the Skylake r4s. It's pretty obvious they built this computer using the new old stock parts they still have laying around.

This is really just unbelievable. I can not believe Dell is the f'ing incompetent. 6/30/2017 build date and they're still using known defective parts. Unfingbelievable. I'm sending everything back for a refund. I called them a few hours ago and got that all set up. Can't wait to get rid of this headache.

 

Thanks for the reply. Sorry to hear it sounds like you've had a terrible experience. To be honest, I'm also having other troubles with the machine that I didn't mention before. I get a lot of microstutter in every game, even after a clean windows 10 install. Seems to be a common issue on the latest version of windows though (30+ page thread on it on the GeForce forums), so might not be an Alienware thing and might be resolved by an update.

I did drop an email to the tech support guy I've been dealing with saying I wasn't happy with the resolution being offered so I'll see what they say. I'll update here in due course.

I remember drooling over Alienware PCs back in the day. Never thought I'd own one and was so excited when this one came around. Couldn't wait to get hold of it and get some high spec gaming on the go, but it has been nothing but disappointment.... :-(

 

Maybe @iunlock @DeeX can answer your question.
The chassis will probably be used for next update also. Defective parts or whatever you call it... Dell have already paid for the parts. Can't throw it in the dustbin. Would be a big loss. If parts are within Dell's specs and quality norm, they can't be called defective. And will be used!!

 

Only if it was done right from the start. It's a hit or a miss right now. Some of the newer systems are OK stock and some still needs work even at stock. It's not as bad as before with the skylakes, but there are those stragglers.

Units from the big block stores tend to have it the worst. Perhaps they receive units from a whole different assembly line? Who knows...

To be fair though all gaming laptops have issues. Not just Dell. Once the AW's are properly repasted, they become the best all around gaming laptop in the segment.

::iunlock::

 

Yeah, I know very well laptops from any brand and all types products can have issues. Monday products can happen from all ODM's and manufacturers. But take a look around in different forum, Alienware is well overrepresented with flaws from the factory. Often the same flaws walk again. And not tell me that AW is one of the biggest ODM out there. They aren't. They really screwed up with the TRIPOD. And it can't seems they manage to fix it. 3-4 months down the road we will see new models. And this without the old flaws in current models is fixed. Maybe follow up with own tech representatives and not relying on what the factory telling them. Dell is probably a too big company... Aka difficult to change their culture overnight.

 

That mentality right there is the problem.They need to just scrap the junk parts. Why continue to use parts they know are junk? Have you personally seen the AUO brand 1080p screen? They look like absolute crap!!

Here is a recent thread about the crap AUO panel: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/which-fhd-is-best-in-alienware-17-r4.806018/

There are many more posts out there, but that is the most recent one I can remember.


It is completely unacceptable on a high-end, premium machine. Bro, I have a laptop from 2010 that cost me $300 at the time that has a better looking screen than this $2000 Alienware 17r4.



And yes I have talked to iunlock a few weeks ago. I was planning to send it to him for a repaste, but had other issues with the laptop that needed fixing by Dell first. iunlock mentioned to me that he was aware of the grainy 1080p AUO panels. I even talked to the Alienware tech and he admitted to me they knew about this issue with the panels. Why then, are they still building new systems as of June 30, 2017, with the same crap panels?

To Dell's credit, they replaced my original laptop's screen with a LG panel which looked beautiful. Complete night and day difference between the LG and AUO. But that laptop still had other issues so I had to send it to Dell again. Then they offered me an exchange. I received a new system yesterday, with build date 6/30/2017. The new system as I said is using the same crap AUO panel I just had replaced, the CPU differences are all over the place, and for some reason it's got an old bezel from the Skylake 17r4s. So basically they're still using new old stock and the problems will continue.

 

The culprit with the recent revision IS the tri-pod mounting system. Next, it's the HS on the CPU side that was not machined to specs.

After I had published this finding, Dell saw this and acted on it. Yes, they were band-aid fixes, there is no denying that, but what a backwards approach to have to go through all the hassle of spending more money and resources of sending "not so techs,' to mess up the systems even more, let alone the horrific depot.

It really sucks, because the mistake of the HS design ruins it for everyone, including some of the good folks over at Dell. Trust me there are some good people there that are on our side and actually understand this stuff with a clear mind....however...

Yes, it is a huge company with the inevitable politics that hinder things from getting done correctly.

I know of a few individuals at Dell, where if they were given the power to call the shots, we wouldn't be dealing with these amateur issues that is causing a huge hit on Dell's/AW's reputation for screwing up something that should NOT be screwed up.

Again...

Current...

The CPU die is not even centered. SMH...

Mounting points as weak, or perhaps weaker than the Dell XPS? Come on...


Before... (Mounting points were awesome..very beefy and sturdy.)


The point here is, it is inarguable that it was a HUGE step backwards with the design and engineering.

Yea yea, 980M before vs the 1080 now...more stuff to fit etc... some may argue.... but hold on...

It is NOT impossible and even if the laptop had to be made thicker to accommodate a proper design, then so be it!

Get away from this thin crap when dealing with a flagship gaming laptop within the line up. Reserve the thin stuff for a whole different segment, within the line up. Not that hard...

People who buy the flagship doesn't care about how thin it is.... look at the whole direction with MaxQ LOL. Trying to go all thin with a false naming scheme in ratio to its performance ...GTX 1080? Give me a break... It should be called GTX 1070M. That would have been more proper.

So with that being said, now with this whole MaxQ thing, there is no excuse to go thinner on the flagship offerings. <- Point proven.

It'll be real interesting what we'll see from the mainstream companies for their next revisions....

The question is, who will actually do it right?

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for dell always buy brand new then return for refund if there is a problem then keep repeating the process until u get a good unit. That's what I like about Bestbuy, hassle free return and refund. But even dell.com it is not too bad you just have to wait longer for the refund. In the end this way is always faster than going through the dell replacement route.

 

I have to disagree regarding MaxQ, at least in the case of the Asus GX501. It does a firestrike graphics score of above 20k. My AW 17 R4 does 23k at best, both units overclocked that is. 20k for a unit that thin without repaste and repad and even cpu core temps while beeing half as loud under load is quite nice. I probably will decide in favour of the Asus and sell my stutter free AW17R4.

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Where did you see above 20K with 1080 Max-Qrippled?


1070

 

I have a 7700HQ AW 15R3 and was hitting upper 80's and sometimes lower 90's. I used Intel Extreme Tuning Utility to adjust 3 parameters and now I'm always below 79. Each CPU is different so you'll need to experiment but for me the Core Voltage Offset at -0.090, Turbo Boost Power Max at 42W (instead of 45W) and Turbo Boost Short Power Max at 51W (instead of 60W) solved it. Once I'm out of warranty after a year I may try the repaste and improved heatsink screw ideas but for now this is keeping me in a very safe temp range. I do see the max frequency still hits 3.8GHz but tends to stay in the 3.3 to 3.6GHz range when I'm running high load 3D intensive games. The GTX 1070 stays below 68 and was never hot.

 

Perhaps there is a misunderstanding.

The point is that MaxQ should not even be considered nor in the same sentence when talking about a flagship.

It does not belong in a flagship. Period.

To be content with a MaxQ as a flagship just supports the wrong direction the industry is heading with offering gimped products in a flatship laptops that doesn't need it.

MaxQ has it's place in lower end laptops, but not in flagships....

Can you link me where it reaches 20K in fire strike? Also, the data of the cpu and gpu temps.

 

Here you go my friend ;-)

I own the unit since 2 days.

I did a first FS run with +200MHz on gpu and +200MHz on vram
CPU not overclocked but with -100mv undervolt.



TDP of 1080 maxes out at around 120W. GPU runs at around 1600-1700 MHz constantly at around 75C. So I would not call it crippled. The ratio between form factor and powa is quite unique.

See also this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/asus-rog-gx501-leaked.805107/page-10#post-10558549

 

Pls see post above. Build quality is excellent, way above Clevo and also better than AW. Regarding performance vs mobility I would call it a flagship ;-)

 

So you had to OC to break 20K? Not impressed. Nothing personal mate.

An OC'ed GTX 1070 can do 22K+.

MiniQ GTX 1080 would have been more proper to be named GTX 1070M. (NVIDIA with it's trickery.)

It would be getting less heat...but when there are lies, it will get called out.

75C is NOT good for something that is suppose to be more efficient.

This is a AW 15R3 with a regular GTX 1070 @ 133W+ (<- focus being the power and temp) at a cool 59C max on FS Loop. So 75C in a miniQ that is proposed to be efficient is a LIE.


My fully functional non gimped GTX 1080 in my 17R4 runs in the high 50C's and low 60C's even with the CPU OC'ed at 42x. @Papusan can enlighten you more with other examples.

75C in a miniQ is way to hot. Not impressed. Nothing personal. As I've said MaxQ has its place in the lower end gaming laptops. I'm all for more horsepower in something like the XPS 15, rather than that tiny 1050.

I have brand new 15R3 / GTX 1070 in the box that I'll be opening tomorrow...

Better than AW? We'll see about that. I'll have the Zephyrus in my hands hopefully in a few weeks to put it to the real test.

Flagship? You're kidding right? I hope so.... NO that is NOT a flagship LOL.

You do realize that MaxQ is a marketing gimmick right? (For NVIDIA to extract more money out of those that don't know better...)

I believe @D2 Ultima has an excellent write up to enlighten the masses. @Eason can back this...... If you want to receive the good word, you must read this to enlighten yourself before ever calling a crippled silicon a flagship.

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Gentlemen, I know there's a huge Max-Q's GPU hype, but what's the point with CPU's core temps diff ?

 

I see your point. However, I PERSONALLY don´t care how the GPU is called and fortunately the price is of minor importance to me. If I wan´t something, I buy it. IF there would be a notebook with the same size, horse power and haptics/aesthetics of the GX501 I wouldn´t have a problem opting for a GTX 1070 equipped unit. However, there isn´t any at least I know of.

Regarding temps: You compare temps of your magically optimized units with a stock unit out of the box. It would be fair to compare temps of a stock AW15 to the ASUS. At least the cpu core temps of the ASUS are not uneven. I will repaste and repad in the future, we will see how the temps work out then.

What counts for me is to be able to have nearly the same gaming experience like with the AW17 with approx. half the noise of the cooling system in a true mobile and light unit driving the GPU in the range of 1600 Mhz at a voltage below 0,8.

In relation to size this is in my view a flagship unit. If you leave size out of the equation the AW17R4 is neither a flagship unit, because my P870DM3 with SLI 1080 runs circles around the AW.

I am looking forward to your review of the ASUS, try not to be biassed in favour of AW in the first place, at least you don´t seem to be biassed with regard to BGA.

I will stop posting about the ASUS in this thread now, but we can discuss this further in the ASUS thread if you like ;-)

 

Appreciate the response, and I'd agree that a return and replacement would be easier with a brand new laptop. However, I still expect to receive decent customer service, direct from Dell, whether it's new or used. They make a big thing about the certified refurbished machines having the same 1year premium on-site warranty that you get with new, so I expect the same level of customer service. It's not my fault they sold me a dud. They should have had better quality control in the first place.

The issue is also price, perhaps obviously. With a discount code, my 17r4 with 6700HQ, 16gb RAM, 256gb SSD and gtx1070 cost £1400 from the outlet. Pricing up the same laptop brand new, but with the 7700HQ now, it costs £2400. £1000 of a difference! Admittedly, with other codes and cashback offes just now, I might save another £300 so £2100 vs £1400. UK prices are much higher than USA prices generally so to compare at today's exchange rates. I paid $1807 (£1400), but if I bought the same machine brand new (exc. change of processor), it would cost me $2711 (£2100). For that price, I'd rather not bother. I'd probably just buy a cheaper HP Omen or Asus ROG (my current ASUS ROG has been absolutely fantastic, which doesn't compare favourably to my first Alienware experience unfortunately).

 

Fair enough and thanks for keeping it civil. I didn't mean to come across strong earlier...no pun intended. Just two dudes talking over a drink watching a football game.

In regard to the ratio, I'm all about that and completely agree ..this is what a lot of people fail to see and I've preached on this very fact a ton. -

A lot of people can understand power to weight ratio for race cars, but can't seem to understand this analogy when it comes to gaming laptops.

On the flip side, there is the price factor that may not line up to some, but to me it's like spending $50K on a mid-sized luxury car and being able to clock in 13's in the 1/4, vs a $40K stripped down / gutted 'can' with roll bars and slicks slicks.

However, the point that I was trying to make is that a GTX 1070 (which is a fantastic card) could achieve the efficiency of what they are marketing as the MaxQ.

With the naming aside, it is a bit of a rinse, recycle and reuse methodology and the biggest thing here is seeing Nvidia trying to pull a fast one with the naming scheme.

Which brings things back to square one, because they could have done this with the 1070.

Now another thing is...what the heck is a MaxQ doing in a 15R3 chassis? LOL...right? If it's suppose to be about thin and light, I don't get why it's fitted in that chassis + that price tag.

Either way, I reserve my full opinion on the new cards until I can fully test it to obtain my own data. - And boy am I ready to tear it down and to put it to the test...

 

Send your PCs to @iunlock and let him fix your PC and banish throttling/core differentials to oblivion.
@iunlock: I always had a bad feeling or vibe not to buy new 15 r3/17 r4 and instead opted for 15 r2. After few months, bang they release the new version. So I was little disappointed but not now. I was lucky. Hahhaa. I'm not saying 15 r2 has all issues fixed but issues like PCh are still there @Papusan, @VICKYGAMEBOY and @judal57 can confirm this. I haven't repadded yet since atm no money. Its sad truth that AW is still DIY and incomplete without the workmanship of an owner or an enthusiasts or noobs.
Anyway @Papusan did lay down the facts about LGA and BGA. So that turned me to dark side that's LGA FTW. So, BGA needs to go away for good.

 

Thanks for the kind words.

As for the bga vs lga debate, the issue is that very few companies offer lga.

BGA has its place in smaller devices and ultra-books and it is a luxury that we all enjoy daily.

The whole issue is very complex and it takes a lot to fully understand how it all works...

I might do a piece on this to give my perspective on the issue as a whole, in hopes to enlighten people of everything that is involved surrounding the industry, demand, etc...

 

I would like if you could tell me (or show me) how much the limits on overclocking is for the 1080N-Q, preferably with a Nvidia Inspector screenshot?

 

Pls see this thread: http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/asus-rog-gx501-leaked.805107/page-10#post-10558549

De facto i run the gpu @ around 1600mhz at around 0.7v.

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That means nothing. I want to see what the limits for overclocking are.

Like this:

 

I do not use inspector. All the info regsrding overclockability can be found in the mentioned thread. In short: the tdp is around 110W, therefore the GPU rund at around 0.75v. Max stable oc for gpu is therefore in my case 220mhz. When setting voltage to a fixed 0.8v and oc higher than 220mhz the gpu is MUCH slower because of tdp power limit. So in the end it is like running the gpu at around 1600mhz under sustained real world load like BF1.

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I do not care how much overclocking YOU can get out of it.

I care how unlocked the slider is. I just need to see the limits of the overclocking slider. It doesn't matter if setting +1000MHz is stable or not; I just need to know if you *can*. That thread does ***NOT*** show "all info regarding overclockability". It shows that you have managed to overclock it and have gotten it rather far on a low voltage. That is irrelevant to what I am asking.

 

Slider goes in AB as high as any other 1080. I will check the max value when i get to it

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Thank you. I can cross-reference with my own Afterburner to make sure.

 

@iunlock Dell Should have a option to send it to you to get checked before it going to its original destination. lol Pretty sure a ton of people would check the option. I would have lol.

 

It would be too costly for Dell, unless Dell shifts their entire assembly line to @iunlock house.

 

Sorry to tell all max-Q fans that...it's just a marketing trick, come on don't be blind you're better than that.

The whole purpose of max-Q is to boost summer sales without spending too much on R&D ! The next flagship Nvidia chipset is called VOLTA not max-Q...and it's going to be awesome . A 1080 max-Q is a lion but under a lot of tranquilizer..and in a cage. Just take the normal, full power 1070 !

What bothers me is intel now, they're acting so cheap in their CPU design, whether its the Volt tuning or the cheap thermal paste inside the lid for lga...it's horrible, regardless of the motherboard/barebone my Nvidia chipsets never outreached 67°C since Maxwell ...intel it's another story.

To this day i did not encounter a kaby lake/skylake CPU that did not accept -110mV, I have the impression (correct me if I'm wrong) that they just lower the tolerance of their chip design so that the most imperfect, inefficient silicium chipset, (the few ones that actually need a +110mV compared to the average) can be sold, i cannot see why talented engineers will otherwise voluntarily cripple the thermal performance and power consumption of their chipset.

 

I find it quite amusing how people are downtalking max-q systems without having ever had their hands on one of them.

There is no 1070 matching the performance level of a max-q 1080 at the SAME power envelope of around 110W. This is the whole point. Is it so difficult to understand that there are at least some people who want the best possible performance in a lightest mobile form factor and do not care much about the naming and the price tag? There will always be compromises and yes, nvidia is a greedy company. But they can command the price because they de facto own the mobile gpu market. Live with it.

The AW17R4 is a mess in many ways. I was lucky, core differential is not to high and after hours of tweaking it performs as it should without stuttering. However, a lot of other people were not lucky.

At leadt max-q led to novel chassis designs like the zephyrus. I have a P870DM, AW17R4 and Zephyrus here side by side. All 3 are aimed at different groups. According to HID they sell the Zephyrus like hot cakes, so obviously ASUS did something right here. But maybe all of the buyers are just stupid

And regarding volta in a mobile platform, I fear it's a long wait.

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You forgot the next Nvidia Scam... Max-Qrippled VOLTA

 

No you're not understanding my point of view,..

Now some of the things they are selling you with Max-Q Pascal could be put in the normal Pascal,....

- better selection of the most efficient chipset in the factory ? they can do that for normal Pascal !
- optimizing the bios for efficiency ? They could do that for normal pascal.


I know MAX-Q offers hardware optimizations (voltage regulators) and a thermal guideline for OEM (vapor chambers, backplate that opens etc.) that is normal and I'm happy to see those innovations,..because they are real !

I feel that they held back some processes for max-Q that they could put into the normal Pascal (and they can still put many), maybe I'm wrong

I worked on some AI projects with CUDA, I respect Nvidia I know they can innovate, I need way more than a MAX-Q to begin really disrespecting them and I'm pretty sure you like them too . What I'm beginning to hate is Intel.

When 12nm, HBM2 Volta begins to appear I'll probably be the first one to preorder in Europe haha, but I don't want some marketing tricks like MAX-Q to delay Volta, just for marketing purpose.

 

Well, Nvidia needs moaaar money for their R&D and marketing to come up with MAX Q like Nvidia Tech terms, next volta will have MAX-Pv (MAX Priced Volta). The more you pay for a GPU the maximum you can OC.

 

The problem is AMD not Nvidia. There is no competition and I fear at least in the mobile sector this won't change for the forseable future. If Nvidia would not milk the most money out of their superior products they would do a bad job. It's called capitalism. The good thing is, nobody forces you into buying their products if you think they are overpriced.
And just for the record, I am no Nvidia fanboy.



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Given the size of Volta I doubt that we're going to see it in laptops anytime soon, at least not the full version.

 

What do you guys think?
This is LM job by yours truly, Repadded from Dell Depot. Overclocked to 4.0GHz, 50mV OV.

config: i7 6820HK, 16GB 2667 RAM, GTX 1070, 2 Toshiba SSDs in Raid 0, 1TB HDD, LM with Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut.

ambient temperatures reported too

temperature credits:
Galaxy Sensors Android app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.ale32thebest.galaxysensors&hl=en

Regards

 

Did they use tapes and empty whole tube of LM? Don't benchmark too much, for now use it normally. After a week continue the benchmark because you don't want to spill it out w/o using the tape as a countermeasure.
@iunlock The max temps looks good but idle temps looks a bit off at an ambient of 22C.

 

hold up, hold up, hold up,
"they"?

I did my own LM paste job buddy, dell cant be trusted to do anything at all.
I have sent my laptop to the depot to get LCD replaced, and they return a computer that has light bleed on the left side of the screen, dead pixels, after 2 weeks.
in the gist: the tech replaced my LCD with another LCD with one dead pixel. The Lid was also replaced, but he chose to use the old bezel, which caused lightbleed. Waste of time for me.

Not the end of the story as, the palm rest was requested to be replaced bu the tech did not deem my request worthy enough and sent the laptop back as is.

I have done 2 LM Jobs on this machine. I have scraped LM off this and sent it to be repaired and repasted with LM again, after they sent the machine back with new Motherboard and Heatsink. My Heatsink is CCI and My CPU is warped. But Conductonaut is my friend so i dont complain.

Regards

 

Yeah I figured. If they do it it won't make it past POST screen or even survive the disassembly?

 

The machine has been running for a day or two now, and i recently played a game of BF1 on it, then stumbled upon this thread and felt that now i am satisfied enough with this machine that i can show people a bit what the greener grass looks like. That might be what you feel like is the high temperature in the ambient 22 degrees C.

Regards

 

I was talking about the idle temps of 27C, in case you were confused. Do you have intel DPTF driver installed?
At my place the ambient temp are too high, sometimes maxes out at 40C or so.

 

I do have DPTF installed, but it tells me the driver is dated 8/10/2016. Am currently looking if it is the latest that is out.

Regards

 

Is it clean installed Windows or Stock Dell Ones?

 

Don't confound volta for AI/cars and the consumer Volta still not released/displayed yet.

 

I have the AW15 R3 with RX 470 and it's awesome. It's the exact same performance as the desktop version. I even get close to 24 Mh/s mining in nicehash, though I don't really mine so I don't fry it

Too bad not many people know about it or just dismiss it. They've been offering it for cheaper than the 1060 lately, though I guess most would rather go safe with ngreedia

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its Dell Latest available version Chipset_Driver_JTXD1_WN32_8.2.11000.2996_A04.EXE

I do notice my fans keep running even on Idle. do you think that can be attributed to DPTF?

Regards

 

Yes I noticed it too, cpu temps are bit higher when i tried that on 15 r2. Disable Support Assist, Dell Foundation and other Dell apps, Killer Network manager that auto start with windows. Check services.msc too for disabling Dell services only and not the killler service.