Goodbye fellow Aliens

I'll make this one short. I had all I could take of Dell and Alienware support, so I'm out. Not sure what brand I'll be moving to, but I'm selling my 17 R2 and not looking back. Maybe I'll see you guys in the other forums, wherever I end up at.

Take care all!!! And good riddance Alienware.

 

Clevo..........

 

for your enjoyment!

 

I really like what I have in my sig. As you can see I got the Clevo after several Alienware 17s. It is a great computer.

 

Another vote for Clevo (Sager).

 

The support you get will depend on the reseller you go to. I ended up buying the Clevo because at the time Alienware weren't offering what I wanted not because I had a problem with them.
The good news is they are infinitely customisable with mine having 2 x HD slots + 2 mSATA slots but WAIT there's more........ some models even have dual video cards

 

Yeah, my Batman is rocking a desktop Xeon CPU. Weird, I know.

 

i wish i knew about the clevo laptop.. really thought alienware was the best.. LOL

 

Clevo woul dbe a solid option for me, if it wasnt for their abysmal batteries and battery life. Also the design is a bit too 90s for me.

 

I agree. I don't understand why other laptop manufacturers don't design good looks. They are losing sales beacause of that.

 

Don't go! Stay with us!

 

mmm no. theyre not. wanna know why? cuz theres tons of users out there like me who use their machines in professional environments every day and dont just game on them. try and show up with a bling bling alienware and ull be thrown out as a laughing stock, trust me
aside from that, clevo has actually a pretty sleek style, but subtle and not "heyyyy, look at meeee, im a gameeeeeer!" kinda thing

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Without the alienfx lights turned on the current alienware design is subtle enough but then again, you seem worried about what other people have to say about you and your choices...

 

For us adults who work in an office, you really don't want to walk in with an AW machine.

It has nothing to do with being worried about what others think. Would you show up at your office job in a t-shirt and shorts?

 

No they're not. Anybody who is genuinely interested in performance realizes looks are superfluous.

Who gives a rats arse what the laptop looks like?

 

"Run starrk run"


"Who in the Hell is that??"


"I just felt like running"


Please come back and let us know what you end up with, and happy

 

??? HAHAHAHAHA, very narrow mind my friend.... just read what you just typed.

If design wasn't important there wouldn't be a sea of Macbook Pro clones.... Just Sayin'

 

Also, I hate suits and ties, what makes you think I would not show at the office with casual clothes??, and more important, what are you doing in an Alienware forum if you would never buy one?, is not like they are new to flashy designs...

 

Not sure if you're trolling, lack reading comprehension or if you're just dense.

A quick look at my sig and you'll see I have had several Alienware machines.

Not sure where you made up this notion I'd never buy an AW machine.

 

Indeed, and those macbook clones attract the same type of buyer.

 

Did not see that but nonetheless my point is, if you don't care about design ("Who gives a rats arse what the laptop looks like?") why do you say something like "For us adults who work in an office, you really don't want to walk in with an AW machine.-", Who gives a rats arse?, right?

 

For the same reason you don't go into a client meeting in a Hawaiian shirt and sandals.

I personally don't care, but there's a certain expectation set by your office, clients etc. If I walked into a client meeting dressed inappropriately, you bet it would be my last client meeting. Same thing an AW machine - my company wants to present a certain image.

Since nuances seem to not work, maybe I shouldve said something like " who cares about looks within reason".

I guess the answer to your question is - my boss and clients give a rats arse about looks.

I guess it depends where you work. A bank will have a different view on what's acceptable vs working in a tech start up, or Google, or Facebook. I'm sure in those latter examples an AW machine would be perfectly acceptable.

 

Ok but still, the current lineup is very subtle with the lights off IMO, just look at these stills:

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They don't scream immature prepubescent does it?
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You don't get the point. They are already selling expensive machines so why don't they also design good looks too? They are losing sales because these laptops look 'cool'. Of course enthusiast people care about performance but I wouldn't want to carry a $250 looking laptop around if I paid over $2500 for it.

 

Because what you think "looks good" isn't a universal opinion?

Clevo is one of the best selling brands around the world. Their looks aren't holding back sales at all. A lack of advertising probably is though.

 

@Chris_Wayne

I've had two AW 17 R2 and one AW 15. I'm very well versed in what they look and feel like.

They're definitely less flashy than older AW models.

 

Look, I don't know why my message got a lot of attention, maybe I couldn't express myself correctly. There may be tons of people like you but there people unlike you, who care about looks too. I don't like the looks of clevo/sager/msi laptops. I find them very cheap looking and that disturbs me. Not because others might not know I paid $2500 for a laptop, because I just don't like how it looks on my desk while I do stuff on it alone. So they do lose sales. Maybe they could get me considering a clevo but I didn't even consider a clevo because it just wouldn't satisfy me in a very important way, looks. Instead I even took a risk of getting a throttle-machine which I did. I did a silly gamble and you might call me an idiot but if I had bought the clevo one and if it worked perfectly I'd still feel something is missing. Maybe I'd be way happier than I am right now with my 800 MHz CPU but I hope I could express myself better this time.

 

You have a point but if we were to make people choose which laptop looks better, I think more than %70 would choose alienware.

EDIT: I forgot to mention that these people who choose are potential high end laptop buyers (not hardcore enthusiasts, high end laptop buyers)

 

Depends. A lot of people avoid AW because they feel the machines look weird/bad/gaudy.

Also, which Clevo machines are you referring to? Newer machines like the P650SE, P750ZM, N150SD look just fine in my opinion. Older machines were definitely lacking in the looks department though.

 

I don't know about the new ones. By the way please don't get me wrong, I am not saying these manufacturers are bad and shouldn't be considered. It's just a matter of taste.

 

Look up those new models. Clevo did listen to criticism regarding their chassis design. Still not as flashy as MSI or AW, but the newer models appeal to a lot of people precisely because of their looks.

 

it doesnt have a wel done design language, a lot of useless lines that they cannot account for why they are there. They should hire me as their designer

 

I have both a Clevo (Sager) and an AW. I am also a self employed contract engineer. NO WAY would I show up for a project with my Alienware. I need my customers to take me seriously. My Sager looks like a business machine. My Alienware does not.

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I am a webdesign/marketing professional and I show up with this laptop in the office. I just turn AlienFX off and no one notices the machine but at least it doesnt look like they where made in the 90s.

 

*sigh*

please show me one single machine made in the 90s that looks even remotely like this:





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Apart from the back side of the laptop which does looks like a gaming laptop. The palmrest is indeed very 90s like with those meaningless lines near te hinges. More 90s early 2000s in terms of what you would expect on tv's etc. Laptops those days had much more organic lines.

You did choose their fnest laptop, the others are not even remotely like that. It might just be my point of view as a designer and thus thinking a lot about design language, margins, radiuses and if lines can be acounted for why they are there. Clevo is in my eyes just a mismatch from all kind of meaningless lines and just no design language. They just design without even thinking why it should look like that. The overall basics are good. I just feel it itch to redesign those laptops everytime when i see them. Alienware might look too much when the AlienFX lights are turned on. But the design language is uniform and well thought out. Even slightly minimalistic. Only the hinge design is always a point that I would want to change.

These kind of lines is what i mean. The side would be pretty okay, if they didnt go for that round hinge with totally collides with the angular design.


Then they create a perfectly minimalistic design for the palm rest made out of brushed aluminum and slap a plastic plate with the keyboard in it and styled the parts above it again without any thought and the margins are not uniform.

 

this was a counterpost i can live with concerning detailed point of view with valid points i naturally chose the ZM series because i currently own it my previous machine was the P150HM.

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I wish all laptops had an option like MSI's RED GS70 Stealth Pro, That thing is sexy. Even the white one stands out more than a basic black tile.

 

Not to be insulting ofcourse. But Clevo's are rather spartan like machines. But I do wish they had a bit more styling and also a much better battery life.

 

they do@battery life, just not all of them, especially not the ones sporting desktop cpus and lacking optimus like the ZM series im sporting if one wants longer battery life, clevo offers models to cater that need.
as for being "spartan" in style: perfect, just my thing subtle, sleek, no-nonsense, professional and crazily powerful

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I bought my Clevo BECAUSE it is spartan looking. I want function and it functions very well while not attracting any attention from my customers. Hell, they think I have an old machine and wonder why I don't get something newer. I like that.

 

I was in the market before the AW15 ofcourse for a 15inch geforce 970 laptop. But the model they did have had a not so good battery life. I wished it had a 5hour+ battery life.

 

I don't think you will get 5 + hours from any laptop that has a 970M, unless it uses Optimus but even then 5 hours seems a lot.

For me the way my laptop looks takes a very distant third place to the way it performs. For me the most important is performance and then build quality with looks coming after that.

 

I get 6+ on the go with the AW15 and i have zero issue with optimus. It comes with the territory. I need pwoer on the go but I also need to use the machine often like in airplanes or high speed trains away from a powersocket. The Gigabyte I had I could push to 5horus but in general it was between 4 or 4.5 hours. It is really not impossible. Unless you start gaming ofcourse.

 

That's interesting. I used to get about 3 - 4 hours out of my M17 but the difference may have been the processor and the screen brightness and etc.... etc .... etc

I actually miss the build quality of my Alienwares but I have to say this little Clevo fairly hums along and I am really happy with it. I haven't found anything (game wise) that slows it down that much. I take it to meetings during the day and play at night with it. I used to do the same with my 17" Alienwares and I had three of them before the Clevo. I did get some odd looks taking my Alienware to various meetings but it never bothered me.

 

What is the madel number of your clevo laptop?

 

Do the AW17 and 15 not have bigger batteries than the M17? Without the PSU hooked I have the brightness around 60% which is around a 225 nits screen. The runtimes of current Alienwares are well regarded by many reviewers.

 

Its in my sig. Its a P375SM-A

 

I liked the Optimus but my current config with dual 980Ms does not have Optimus and the much shorter battery life was a bit of a shock. Having said that though I almost never use my laptop away from a power source and when I do it is not for gaming so the shorter battery life is not an issue.