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    GTA 5 17 r2 lag

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by thunderbirds, May 19, 2015.

  1. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    anyone else having FPS drop during ingame
    i think i posted this before but i couldnt find solution
    while ingame FPS will drop to 20 for 2-3 minute
    Intel XTU shows processor drops to 0.80Ghz then back normal and FPS will back normal as well
    someone pls help
     
  2. xMAXIMUSx

    xMAXIMUSx Notebook Consultant

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    Yeah ive seen stop dead on 29fps a few times in gta online then it just shoots back up to 100+ , mabye lag, server issues? seen it a couple times using precision x
     
  3. ufomammut

    ufomammut Notebook Consultant

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    Hello
    i already asked you that question several times are you under bios aoo?
    it sorted this problem of drops with far cry 4 on my config 4980 980 ssd
    i play now gta 5 and tw3 60 fps with no drops
     
  4. creationsh

    creationsh Notebook Guru

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    A00 does drop in performance while gaming. it happens from time to time while I play starcraft 2, despite a 240w psu
     
  5. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    sorry
    i was on A00 bios then now upgraded to A02 same issue
     
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  6. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    how did u solve it? help me pls
     
  7. Alienware-L_Porras

    Alienware-L_Porras Company Representative

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    A04 now?
     
  8. ufomammut

    ufomammut Notebook Consultant

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    That is weird then....
    I have the same config as you expected that I am using the stock 512 gb SSD and 1T hard drive. I never had this brutal throttle issue after downgrading to A00 ... before I was on A02 and it was a mess with fc4. I am using the latest nvidia driver and use a flextronic 240W psu. Always on normal mode.
    Are your temperature ok?
    As some point maybe your m17 have a problem, maybe you could ask for a exchange...
     
  9. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    temp is around 70 on GTA5
    using 240 psu as well
    this is a replacement unit.
     
  10. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    on A02 now sorry
     
  11. ufomammut

    ufomammut Notebook Consultant

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    are you on normal mode?
     
  12. ufomammut

    ufomammut Notebook Consultant

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    But did you had that also on A00?
     
  13. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    yes i was on A00 before
    what u mean by normal mode
    i tried balanced power mode and high performance
     
  14. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    is there any way to find out what makes the CPU goes down to 0.80Ghz the back up normal within a minute or so
     
  15. ufomammut

    ufomammut Notebook Consultant

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    Hi,
    By normal I meant balanced.
    So if it happened also with A00 I am afraid to not have the competence to help you further, sorry...
    Maybe bad pasting that make your cpu throttling, you can monitor temp with XTU while gaming.
    But if with the same config as me you do not obtain the same performance, and I can guaranteed you that GTAV run flawlessly for hours at 60 fps (vsync on and settings between very high and ultra), you should request a exchange.
     
  16. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    Can you post your setting
    Mine more than 30 days not sure if I can get exchange for new
     
  17. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    My max temp is 75
     
  18. ufomammut

    ufomammut Notebook Consultant

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    ambient occ high
    anisotrop 16
    directX11
    full screen
    distance scaling 100%
    extended distance scaling 20%
    extended shadow distance 20%
    FXAA activated
    grass high
    high detail flying activated
    high res shadow desactivated
    ignore suggested limits on
    high resolution shadow off
    depth of vfield off
    long shadow off
    MSAA off
    TXAA off
    particles very high
    population density and variety 100%
    post FX ultra reflection MSAA off
    reflexion quality very high
    shadows very high
    nvidia PCSS
    tesselation normal
    texture very high
    water very high
    MFAA descativated



    By the way your laptop is guaranteed minimum on year, so if it does not work they must repair or change it. 30 days is if you change your mind and want a refund
     
  19. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    nvidia PCSS i dont have this options
    im testing with your setting now
     
  20. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    tested with your settings same thing happend, upgraded to A04 and same issue
    called dell and requested replacement, they said will escalate and IF Approved they will replace it
    lets see
     
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    XTU will tell you the reason for throttle, just use the spanner to add in the throttle reasons.
     
  22. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    Download it, open it, go to the spanner and add the throttle monitors...
     
  24. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    it has power limit throttling and current throttling which one should i monitor
     
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    I advise you to monitor everything when trying to figure out how the computer is behaving.
     
  26. thunderbirds

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    during FPS drops throttle thermal 100% in xtu during the time of FPS drop
     
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    Your CPU is reaching temperature threshold and throttling then.
     
  28. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    ah ok...what is the solution? any idea? i requested exchange last week but no one get back to me
    my unit is 1½ month old
     
  29. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    received a call from dell, the agent was telling there is no update on my exchange request
    asking him further question he just told me if you want to wait you wait otherwise its up to you

    i mean what kinda attitude is that, when i want to question him more he just said Okay Byee and ended the call
    i paid 4 years enhanced warranty and 4 years on accidental cant believe this type of treatment im getting

    I even sent them the Screenshot of the throttle

    CPU Throttle 2.PNG
     
  30. ufomammut

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    Hi
    the way dell support is treating you is not acceptable...
    i don't know where you are living but from my experience the support was good as they dont have a clue of what they are doing and change graphic card and everything without making stories ... so try again.
    If you feel that the guy do not consider you seriously ask him or her name and ask to speak to its supervisor. Always be polite but make a story. if the system doesn't work it must be change or repair because it is under guarantee you don't pay more for nothing.
     
  31. thunderbirds

    thunderbirds Notebook Consultant

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    Im in Canada
     
  32. ufomammut

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    Ok i am from this other side of the atlantic ocean..
    you probably have customer protection group
    said that you will contact them or your lawyer. even if you don't have and you don't plan to do it.
    but get the name of your interlocutor to pressurize him or her
    they don't like to be personnaly cited in a complaint
     
  33. T2050

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    You brought the thing, they offered 4 years of enhancement which has been paid. They don't own the thing anymore, you do. They have your enhancement money. Their policy is middle finger to you, and do as little as possible with the support they pay workers peanuts while they keep huge profit from your money.

    Also consider that the i7-4980HQ and GTX980M are both potent processing units, I would expect that you could/will run into trouble on the same cooling system that a standard i7-4710HQ and 970M uses but handles it well otherwise without throttling.
     
  34. ufomammut

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    Read this tread and what the official alienware representative is answering, they are changing whole unit for a minor issue with the keyboard.

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/keyboard-issues-on-new-aw17-r2.776316/

    It is not a problem of alienware policy, it is a problem with some guys in the support service that are not doing the job or do not receive the proper information from the company. Some people struggle to get the 240W PSU despite an official statement of the CEO.
    Me, they send me two 240W PSU without asking questions.
     
  35. thunderbirds

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    worst service ever still, everytime i call no resolution, escalated the issue and someone suppose to get back to me but none cares my god
     
  36. thunderbirds

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    why didnt i just go buy a MSI from Futureshop :vbeek:
     
  37. thunderbirds

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    Received a call from Dell and i was told "Sorry your system exchange is not approved, We cant change your system"
     
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    A good repaste may sort that issue.
     
  39. ufomammut

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    If there is thermal pad problem after one month it is because the product is defective right from the factory and/ or was not subjected to quality control.
    why not delivering the laptops with a benchmark score plus the temperature as a certificate?
    regarding thunderbirds issue the minimal would have been to send a tech to do the repaste. But a unit which is suspect right from the beginning must be replace.
     
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    Sent an email to Media team in Toronto, Got a call next day from Corporate office saying Exchange is approved, Waiting for new unit