Alienware laptops powered by NVIDIA's GTX 10 series graphics set to debut at PAX West

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http://www.windowscentral.com/alien...ias-gtx-10-series-graphics-set-debut-pax-west

http://en.community.dell.com/dell-b...th-nvidia-pascal?dgc=SM&cid=544&lid=546661330

 

any word on change in design ?

 

Nope but the mobile pascal cards are all desktop class cards so there is no 1080m anymore.

 

Plus there is a new 1080p 120hz / 5ms panel out in the wild (MSI & Clevo) so one would hope AW would take advantage of this new panel.
It should be good.

 

AW hasn't funked with 120hz in a few years.

 

Very excited to hear about how they're gonna implement these new cards specially when they're so close to desktop class performance that I feel it makes the AGA not needed. Hopefully they show a new design but if not then no biggie, I love the design of the current one.

 

i am going to change of laptop when HBM2 memory come ... the only atractive thing here is the GDDR5x... a little bit ... first i need to see temperatures of this new pascal models ... msi is using 10 heatpipes desing ... lol i thing the heat is a thing to worry about

 

an AW 13" with i7 6700hq and 1060 would be a REALLY interesting machine ... really portable and powerfull

 

maybe they wait for 1030m and 1035m and update the 13" model LOL hahahaahah

 

@Papusan i saw a clevo model with 1080 in SLi ... a laptop that seems like yours.

 

It looks like his machine but these cards in this configuration do not fit his machine. They changed the MXM spec thus rendering future upgrades useless.

 

that is pure sex + a lot of wasted space at the bottom. how does clevo combine such awesomeness and mediocrity milimmeters away in the same machine is beyond me.

 

There really been many laptop LCD panels on the market with 120hz.
Plus optimus doesnt work with 120hz.
Finally they come out with 120hz... and its 5ms!

 

Intel seems to be supporting 120hz for these new laptops with 120hz, I saw Intel control panel showing 120hz as the refresh, IDK if it's Optimus or Matrix switching for iGPU/dGPU yet.

 

I hope not lol I would rather them just to back to switchable graphics like with the M15x / M17x
Optimus is garbage.

 

After reading how powerful the new mobile GPUs are I was completely thinking that the AGA is now a dead product.

I hate to say it, but I would love a thin aw 13 with a usb-c dock that comes with a mobile 1070 or 80.

Or even an AGA with a built in 1080 mobile variant.

They are saying that the new gpus are hotter so I would not be surprised if they kept the body-style the same. The cooling is already some of the best.

 

I think, you can keep the AGA, and in a couple of years when the newest biggest some wierd name architecture gtx1280 or something is available, you can plug it and play at 120 fps in 4K!

 

AGA still need cause the new Alienware laptop line are BGA.

 

Well mxm is not a guarantee as is seen now with the new pascals. It doesnt fit in old mxm compatible laptops. They change the form factor.


Incredible though. The 1060 surpasses even the 980M. I would love to have the 1070 in a machine similar to the AW15.

 

How likely is it they'll advertise with a desktop processor in it and then renege on it later?

 

Ya that's irrelevant for two reasons.
For one people use the AGA for a desktop class GPUs on a laptop that doesnt have desktop class power. The new mobile nVidia GPUs are all desktop class.

Two, the main reason people griped about BGA was the ability to upgrade with MXM. People with last Maxwell laptops cannot use Pascal MXM cards in their laptops.
nVidia stopped making MXM reference cards a few years ago. So that means its up to the manufacturers to make their own form factor for the cards. Which means they CAN be different between manufacturers and between GPU generations.
Long story short, just because you have MXM doesn't mean you can use the newer MXM cards. Which equals the same as BGA.

 

I dont think they would say they were going to put a desktop processor in and then change their mind.
It should be noted they have not said any details about what is happening with the new Alienware Pascal laptops.
They have basically only have acknowledged they exist and will be announced in two weeks.

 

There is someone on Alienware Arena posting "features" about the new laptops. A slightly different design and better cooling.
Take leaks with a pinch of salt, even if they're fairly obvious (like the cooling design).

 

I think a new and better cooling is needed with 10-series. They are desktop based so they run hotter.

 

Link?

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https://na.alienwarearena.com/forums/thread/133455/general-1/new-10-series
I don't expect the posts to stay up for long.

 

REally funny because i cant see the CLEVO GUYS saying that their machines are the best hahahahaha


BUT .... BUT.... I HAVE MXM ..... HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

that was a slap, right in the face to the trolls here. a little bit exciting to me

 

This is true...
Regardless, their gripe makes no sense and here's why.
A 1080 MXM card is about $1250 with out the T- heatsink.
So if someone had the Maxwell Clevo they would have to pay $1300 (or $2600 for SLI) to get pascal. Even if they could upgrade, they might as well just sell their old system and buy a new Pascal Clevo at around $3000 (or $4200ish for SLI).


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At least I can still fix mine instead of tossing the motherboard in the trash, and it's performance annihilates what you've got. Seems really weird for people to find joy in the sorrow of others. Can't say that I understand sick puppies like that, but oh well. Might as well go ahead an enjoy the laughs while you can.

 

But would you actually buy an AW17R4 with 6700K/7700K and GTX 1080? or even 6700K/7700K and GTX 1080 SLI?

 

nope

 

Sure... absolutely would under the right circumstances. Brand means absolutely nothing to me... totally irrelevant. I'll buy whatever is best and runs the fastest as long as it has sockets and slots and isn't a crippled piece of junk. I don't have to say anything about BGA because you guys already know my position on that is that I find it absolutely unacceptable. Anything with a crippled BIOS and power handling limits like the abortion they called an Alienware 18, no, I wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole. A socketed CPU and MXM didn't don't do anything to make up for everything else that they did ruin to it as an enthusiast product. It was a wounded warrior before the first one shipped on launch day. That was just as disappointing to, maybe even more so, as what Clevo just did to us by changing dimensions on components to force people into buying something new. Evil is evil and wrong is wrong no matter company is screwing their customers.

It will be interesting to see if Alienware's new Pascal notebooks will be able to keep pace with the competition. Based on what I've seen from them for the past few years, I'm going to guess that it probably won't happen.

I think I'd be able to figure out a way to get a single 1080 to fit in my Clevo with a bit of modding effort, but as I bought it for specifically SLI I'm probably not going to even bother trying since that's not up to snuff for my purposes.

 

Well, that doesn't sound like you'd buy one since they'll lock it to 2400mhz ram. What if they capped the power draw to a maximum of ~500 watts?

I'm sure they'd have to change the dimensions for the AW17R4 this time due to the 180W vs 100W card.

 

@Mr. Fox actually the message wasnt for you (you are a good person) ... another guys that i dont like, because they talk too much **** about alienware; i know the problems and i deal with them (i like and hate some things about the brand) ... but yes, that was a kick on the balls changing the dimensions ... endeed i dont like pascal, gddr5x is nothing to me ... i will go for hbm2, this will be a real deal.
sorry if i offended you, you helped me before

 

Unfortunately, they actually did exactly that once before, and not that long ago. The Alienware 18 980M SLI refresh that was short lived was initially going to have a 4790K, and then it suddenly became a mistake that they pretended never happened. It would have been a fairly simple thing for them to do and it would have potentially been quite nice. A lot of people were really excited about it and disappointed that it was not accurate. I don't know that it was intentional deception... unlikely that it was. Most likely poor communication and disorganization on their part.

No offense taken, but thank you for saying that, Brother @judal57. I appreciate that you took time to say this.

I just thought it was weird to see an open expression of happiness over the terrible misfortune and sadness of others. We can debate over things like BGA, but even so I have never wished bad things to make people unhappy or glad to see them lose thousands of dollars. I might hope that things turn out poorly for an enemy, but I don't have any enemies that I know of. Like you said, I try to help everyone I can, regardless of what kind of machine they have.

You guys have a good night.

 

@judal57 alot of current Clevo users are brand agnostic, many ex-AW owners too, so putting your pom-poms on and chearleading one over the other seems rather dull.

Laughing at people trying to get behind up-gradable machines tells me more about yourself then anything else. Thanks for the show

 

The aw17 chassis can handle 150watt with ease. The current 980m can even with a hefty 200mhz overclock stay around 70c under full load. While there is quite an empty space in the chassis. Could be used for even bigger heatsinks.

 

like I previously said, it has got the best chasis design so far, the only problem here is heatsink, they could have gone with 3-4 pipe on both sides, with a armor set for most part of mobo, imagine a second thin shield layer like in Asus Sabretooth Mobo... @judal57 hows ur pch temps.. and like u said, even I'm not intrested in pascal, I rather wait for volta / vega.. AMD zen is already kickin some ass, I'm happy that amd is coming back in some form atleast.. hope in the future not to see this mediocre monopoly of intel/NVidia..

 

The Asus sabretooth shield is like the most useless design ever though. It actually heats up the hardware. JUst a larger heatsink design is sufficient.

 

what I mean is something that kinda heatsink, like the latest clevo ones, but better.. not just the shield, so that it covers the other components as well and dissipates heat to cooling end.. 125W atleast for 1080.. so yeah they need more heatpipes, or bigger aluminium fins on end..

 

I think Nvidia are pulling AMD here, a full desktop gpu with lower clocks which produces a lot of heat. I've a gut feeling that, AMD would put full unlocked polaris for macs and notebooks.

 

Polaris needs more power than pascal and produces more heat. Not so sure about that.

 

Polaris / Vega is way better..

 

that is what they expect. I hope it is true. BUt I dont get my hopes up too high.

The new Zen CPU looks promising though.

Waiting to upgrade my desktop PC because of that.

 

Raja Koduri did tell that Polaris was fully unlocked. I think Vega would be dual polaris and if their bring their TDP to 175W by providing monstrous number crunching perf in both FP32 and FP64, then its a Win-Win situation for Red Team.