Alienware Area 51m Undervolt and Overclock Guide

Great to hear

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Can you post your thermal results ?
My concern is this device always throttles in cinebench ?

I don’t know if I win the silicon lottery

 

Well, I have repaste the CPU with Gelid Extreme, my temp is around 90s under heavy load running at -0.130 adaptive voltage @ 4.9 Ghz , is this a **** silicon or an acceptable one?

 

Is this a 9900k? That seems a little bit high for that frecuency and undervolt.

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Yes this is almighty 9900k , I kept it running for 2 hours using XTU at -0.125 mv with 4.9 ghz core frequency and cache frequency 4.9 ghz as well

 

Thanks so much for this hard work dude!

 

Is there a PDF version of this?

 

There was, but can't find the word file to update it. Best is to use a PDF printer and print the guide.

 

Noob to doing undervolt/overclock pretty much anything besides maybe unscrewing screws and looking at the guts. With that out of the way I was gonna ask what changes would I make (if any) to following your guide if my specs are as follows

-17.3" FHD (1920 x 1080) 144Hz, IPS, NVIDIA G-SYNC, Eyesafe(R) Display Tech + Tobii Eyetracking
-2TB RAID0 (2x 1TB NVMe M.2 SSDs)
-32GB, 2x16GB, DDR4 XMP 2933MHz
-NVIDIA(R) GeForce RTX(TM) 2070 8GB GDDR6 (OC Ready)
-Windows 10 Home 64bit English
-9th Generation Intel Core i7-9700K (8-Core, 12MB Cache, up to 4.9GHz w/ Turbo Boost)
-Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 Processor Label
-System Software
-Killer 1650X Wireless driver

2nd question was in regards to re-pasting. Would it be pointless to do all of the other undervolting from the guide without redoing thermal paste?

I am wanting to actually care for a notebook and not just let it go to pot, so this forum seems like a godsend.

 

Can you please run CPU-Z then take a screenshot of the SPD tab? I wanna know what brand/model is that new RAM that Alienware is advertising as 2933 MHz

 

Not many changes really, the RTX2070 is more power limited than temperature limited on this device so you just have to modify the curve so the GPU keeps at 115W. CPU overclocking is as described.

Re-pasting and re-pading is recommended, but not essential. You can do the guide regardless.

 

Thank you for the response! One last question was about the VBIOS. Since mine is a 2070 is there a recommended VBIOS version I should shoot for before performing the undervolt process? The guide says VBIOS 1.0.0.5, but thats for the 2080, right? Just want to make sure i've set myself up for as much success (and not abject failure) before I start.

I did find DeeX's post about VBIOS versions but again am more timid to use them since they also seem to be for the 2080.

 

There are several vBIOS for the RTX 2080 with different power levels. Don't think that to be the case with the RTX 2070 since it was always locked to the maximum allowed by nVidia of 115W. You don't have to worry about this.

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Wow I was about to get one of these. Why is there all this work needed on the flagship laptop out of the box. I guess the recommendation is to not to get one?

 

All laptops have problems with power and temperature limits. The problem with the 51m is the additional hoops and loops that you have to go through if you want the RTX2080.

 

Fantastic guide, thank you for the write up.

Tried to follow, but ran into the following issues that I am sure are user error but would be grateful for any help-

1) In my ACC profile that I have set for my undervolt, I cannot adjust the thermal limit on the GPU at all, it seems locked to 75C. I was able to adjust the sliders for the core and memory clocks down to 0, but the thermal slider just will not move.

2) When using Throttlestop, no matter what multiplier I set in the FIVR settings for my selected profile (such as 51 or 52) when running TS bench the FID multiplier caps at 50 and will run no higher. All other settings in all sub-menus are identical to the guide.

Information -

i9-9900k + 2080
BIOS 1.9.3
ACC v5.2.89.0
Throttlestop v9.0


Thanks!

 

You need to use OC controls version 1.2.50.1227

Then apply this trick: http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...it-slider-in-alienware-command-center.833149/

 

Thank you, that worked perfectly for the GPU temperature.

My Throttlestop still (even on fresh install) cannot seem to actually adjust anything - multipliers stay capped at 50 and voltages do not adjust when using FIVR for some reason. I have the ACC setup exactly as described and no other tweaking, tuning, or even monitoring utilities running at the moment. Any thoughts as I am stumped. :/

 

What is it you are trying to do with Throttlestop and what issues are you having?

I ask as I had issues and it was down to not having the Overclock profile on AWCC set to off. Basically AWCC was overriding Throttlestop.

I did have a similar issue with the multipliers not going passed x49 I think. I had to change the range on the bottom section of the TPL box (I think, not at the laptop just now). I changed the range within the right box to 255. This should allow the multiplier to be set at whatever you need.

 

I'm trying to follow the guide in OP to undervolt the CPU as I've got the 9900k and it is *hot*. I have set up Throttlestop as detailed, which included increasing the range in the TPL box to a max of 52 (to start). When I go into the FIVR settings, I am able to increase the multiplier on each line of # of cores active up to say 51 or 52, ensuring Overclocking is ticked, and then applying the settings for that profile. Then in the main Throttlestop window select that profile and run TS bench - but no matter what my multipliers are set to in the FIVR settings, the FID multiplier per core caps at 50.

I've tried this both with the custom AWCC profile detailed in OP (OCing turned off for CPU but on for GPU to allow for thermal increase) and with Overlocking set to off, and I know that TS can adjust my multipliers because when I toggle to any of the profiles that don't have turbo ticked it will limit the cores to a 47 multiplier.

50 just seems like it is a hard stop somehow. I've attached some images showing my FIVR settings and then what the multipliers are during a TS bench to illustrate!

Thanks for the help!

FIVR settings for profile 2, per guide in OP -


Results during TS bench, with AWCC OC set to "Off"-

 

Since changing the TPL setting have you saved then completely closed TS then opened it back up? I've had to do this when making changes within TPL to get it to stick and then allow the higher multiplier.

If the 9900k is running hot already, do you really want to go more than x50? It could be detrimental?

Failing any of these suggestions your best bet is to head over to the TS Guide thread. @unclewebb is a great help and managed to help me when I had similar issues. There is a log file that you can run that can help him localise some faults which might help out here.

 

Try using the FIVR - Disable and Lock Turbo Power Limits feature. There is some code within that feature that might unlock the maximum multiplier.

 

Thanks for the suggestion - tried a fresh install and going through everything step by step with a shutdown and restart in between but still no dice sadly.

I don't actually want to push the multiplier, but it was the easier option to show that the TS settings I was applying in FIVR didn't seem to be actually taking hold with the CPU. The same also occurs when attempting to undervolt as well.

No dice with that setting either, ticked or untick. Very very strange, but thank you for the support! Will try to put together a more detailed write up and head on over to the Throttlestop section of the forums.