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    Alienware 13 R2, 17 R3 and 15 R2 Refresh

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by geniusfb, Aug 27, 2015.

  1. geniusfb

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    So they updated aw15&17
    17.3 inch has 4K screen
    PCIE SSD+DDR4 support
    USB Type-C with thunderbolt 3 and others
    And there is an option for R9 M395X on AW15
     
  2. J.Dre

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    That's Broadwell. Skylake is 6000.
     
  3. Alienware-L_Porras

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    That's true, I was about to post it until I saw your thread haha. There's refresh on many components of the previous laptop line.
     
  4. geniusfb

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    I saw someone post on another thread about the update, so I went to aw.com to check it out.
     
  5. geniusfb

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    But what's 5820HK? I only know 6820HK and 5820K...
     
  6. J.Dre

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    It's not anything like the 5820k desktop processor. Don't think it will perform the same, lol.

    Skylake will probably be refreshed in a month or two with Alienware's.
     
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    I just thought "hk " series start with skylake series not broadwell.
    Wouldn't such constant update affect sales?
     
  8. J.Dre

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    I think the first batch has Broadwell. Broadwell was skipped this past summer, so they probably just have a few shipments of them to sell.

    The 6th generation processors should be coming very soon.
     
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    Interesting. Still, I'm gonna wait for skylake based model, with 990m would be great
     
  10. paradigm

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    Sugar ,I was about to post this after reading on Engadget and decided in having a cup o'tea before I linked it all up :)
     
  11. paradigm

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    I did wonder though as to why still consider the AW interface for connecting external gpu when the rigs now have TB
     
  12. geniusfb

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    Perhaps the cost to do so is still too high
     
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    Great, it looks as if they're updating the page. I'm seeing i5-4210H, i7-4720HQ, and i7-4870HQ.
    That said, this will most likely be for Skylake*. Mobile i5 quad cores and the i7-HK start to appear with Skylake. The long shipping time for them could also be a giveaway to this fact.
    And they added the R9 m395x. Wonder if that's another rebrand or not.
    *In other words, in a month or two, all they will change is the CPU compatibility to Skylake. It'll still be the same laptop.
    http://www.pcworld.com/article/2976...nd-better-screens-but-oddly-lack-skylake.html
     
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  14. Tony V

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    Gonna wait until they pan out what hardware is actually going into the machines!!! Why update the product page with false information doesnt make any sense to me. How about wait until it is know for sure what hardware is going to be shipped and then update the page. Novel Idea huh??? Seeing this across all thier lines of laptops from AW13 to the AW18....not to confident inspiring.
     
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    is my i7-4710 w/ gtx980m gonna be sucked vs i7-4870 w/ gtx980?
     
  16. orancanoren

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    It says AW 17 r3 and they're still selling these laptops with soldered CPU and GPU. I wonder what PSU they ship these machines with. Maybe 150W this time?
     
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    All I see is a cash cow where they are trying to get certain buyers to dump their faulty r2, in favor of the new r3 with minimal updates. Skylake may offer some help to the issues that folks are seeing with throttling and everything else, but this seems to be a cash in quick scheme to me. If alienware cared about consumers, it would at least wait for the 990m release later this year, and refresh with skylake and the 990m (which was said to be comparable to 980m SLI). Again who knows, maybe this is just a place holder for the updates soon as others have pointed out the long build times. I wont be buying into the hype. I enjoy my r2 just fine and my 4710HQ is one of the best overclockers out there sitting at 3rd in the world on xtu benching. I will say that the value for alienware is seemingly gone with the BGA still being part of their build, and this 17 R2, will be my last from them, as others have said.
     
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    When you build one it shows as shipping with a 240W
     
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    But only if you get the GTX 980m or the R9 m395x. If you get the GTX 970m or GTX 965m, you get the 180w PSU.
    This is good.
    EDIT: While all the Nvidia laptops here have HDMI 2.0 (1.4 for the AMD 15), I realized that they took away the mini DP. It might be because of TB 3 being a USB + Display port in one, but still sad to see it gone.
     
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  20. kgh00007

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    I wonder what BIOS they will come with? :p

    The i7-5700HQ looks nice, it can turbo to 3.5GHz on all 4 cores/8 threads!
     
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    Just noticed Dell/AW just released a new lineup, was not expecting that. Any info on the changes??
     
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    Because it is a an external pci express port directly. This is superior compared to Thunderbolt.
     
  23. J.Dre

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    Looks like the U.S. site went back to Haswell. Not even seeing Broadwell anymore, except on the 13.

    Wait until the end of September!
     
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    kgh00007, we can maintain 35x on all 4 cores today with the Broadwell 5950HQ:

    http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...es-test-and-tune.773245/page-33#post-10077548

    The Broadwell is 47w TDP, and the Skylake is 45w TDP, hopefully Skylake will be more efficient than Broadwell and also hold sustained performance for long periods at 35x.

    The TDP limit is what is holding us all back from experiencing the full performance the Intel CPU can give, mostly due to the iGPU parasitically draining TDP headroom from the CPU - ok, likely all due to the iGPU ;)

    It's an exciting time.
     
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    1tb ssd

    4k 17"

    Broadwell with overclocking up to 4.4

    Amd m395x

    2133mhz memory
     
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    typo.jpg

    There are some typo too.
     
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    Confirmed Skylake launch schedule:

    [​IMG]

    The Alienware 13 R2 will have the i5-6200U and i7-6500U in a couple weeks.

    The Alienware 15 R2 and 17 R3 will have the i5-6300HQ (?), i7-6700HQ and i7-6820HK in a couple weeks.

    The new models will be shipping in approximately 2-3 weeks. The first mobile Pascal GPU's should follow by Q1/Q2 2016.
     
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    So unless I'm missing something, it looks like the 4k option has been removed from the 15 inch.
     
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    So this is the real update ?


    Boring boring Chelsea
     
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    J.Dre is you table real? Are the release date for Skylate in general or referred to Alienware?
     
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    Yes, that is the official launch schedule for Skylake. That's what I meant by "confirmed." ;)

    P.S. If you haven't noticed, that's why they shipping dates all say, "20-24 business days."
     
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    Yes it seems that way. Maybe they are trying to sell out the r1 models first and then they might add it to the new model.

    You have an R1 though right?
     
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    Yep I have an R1. It's funny because back when I was debating between the 15 and 17, I chose the 15 because of the 4k panel. I would have easily went with the 17 if the 4k panel was in back then.
     
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    So I'm assuming no Broadwell in the new Alieware lineup? Straight to Skylake? Placing an order now for the AW 17 R3 UHD.
    Will see what CPU comes with it.
     
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    Dell mentioned awhile ago that they were going directly to Skylake, for not just AW, but for most of their laptop lineup (not holding my breath if someone finds something and posts a model here that makes me eat my words).

    Broadwell is old news now that Skylake has finally launched.
     
  38. jedolley

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    In regards to the AW13, I believe you guys are right, but would like to see it on the order page before I pull the trigger...
     
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    The day Alienware listed the 17 R3, 15 R2 and 13 R2 on their site, the 17 R3 was listed with the i7-5700HQ. Went back to the site two days ago and they had changed the listing to i7-4720HQ.
     
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    Yeah I saw that too! The 15 was the same, listed with the i7-5700HQ when I saw it too!
     
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    There's something definitely wrong with their site. Checked just now and the AW 17 is now listed as the R2 again with just the 4710HQ or 4980HQ. The 15 still shows up with the 4720HQ.
     
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    They probably decided to sell leftovers of R2
     
  43. jedolley

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    Confirmation?

    [​IMG]
     
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    Just like with the AW13 R1 and the i7-4510u. Those who ordered that config got "upgraded" to the i7-5500u.
    In other words, the upcoming lineup will have Skylake CPUs. It's a good marketing tactic what Alienware is doing. It worked before, so why not use it again.
     
  45. J.Dre

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    Intel controls the day others can start selling their chips. They probably were just updating the website and preparing for the launch. Alienware isn't allowed to sell Skylake before Skylake is officially launched, but you will get a Skylake CPU if you order now. :) The order will change automatically.
     
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    That's good news. Will keep my eyes open on my order (still in "pre-production")
     
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    the intel data sheet claims the 6700hq doesn't come with intel vPro and intel txt while the 6820hk does. Also 6820hk can be overclocked.
    ddr4 ram. hope they allow future upgrades to 32gb.

    Dell still hasn't updated their site though.
     
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    Just placed a new order (different config) and Skylake CPU is in the order confirmation :)

    -Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HK (Quad-Core, 8MB Cache, Dynamically Overclocked up to 4.4GHz)
     
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    Nice! That's what I would order if I was buying right now! Did you go for the 980M and PCIe SSD?
     
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