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    AW15 / 17 R2 BIOS A05 (CPU Fix?)

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by Game7a1, Jul 1, 2015.

  1. thepharcyde

    thepharcyde Notebook Enthusiast

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    It's tHrottle man tHrottle, stop posting trottle in every thread.

    Phew, feel better after that.
     
  2. blackbalt89

    blackbalt89 Notebook Guru

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    Well that's one solution to the temperature problem. No turbo, less heat.

    Man I feel like I got screwed buying this thing.
     
  3. ufomammut

    ufomammut Notebook Consultant

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    what is the problem with trotlle, it must be written in red and bold???
    I don't understand all the subtleties of english :(
     
  4. Game7a1

    Game7a1 ?

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    I think he's annoyed? I mean, that's what I get from it.
     
  5. Papusan

    Papusan Jokebook's Sucks! Dont waste your $$$ on Filthy

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    Is it better with down clocking? Or reduced clock speed ? Or only T*******. A dear child has many names... Pick out what you like best .. Just joking :vbthumbsup:. It's great that Dell can see all complain of such problems. Perhaps something is being done. A lot more Aw owners should complained about the problem. Do not just accept these problems and push them under the carpet. Without complaining; Nothing happens from DEll. Such problem might be even worse with the next Aw models that will be released.
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2015
  6. kgh00007

    kgh00007 Notebook Evangelist

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    I just did some testing between BIOS A05 and A00. AW 15 i7 & 970M

    Running Heaven Benchmark 4.0:

    BIOS A05: CPU 92°C GPU 76°C

    BIOS A00: CPU 82°C GPU 63°C

    Running prime 95:

    BIOS A05: CPU 92°C

    BIOS A00: CPU 82°C

    Such a huge difference.

    Nothing changed in the room, ambient is about 21°C. I ran the tests on A05, then flashed A00 and ran the tests again.

    10°C cooler on CPU with BIOS A00, 13°C cooler on the GPU.

    The other thing is that on A00 the surface temps of the laptop are much cooler, the keyboard is back to being useable. On A05 my keyboard is getting so hot I don't want to use it.

    I'm gonna bring home an IR thermometer from work in a day or two and test the keyboard temps on A00 and A05.

    One thing is for sure, this laptop has the cooling capacity, it's just not being used......
     
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  7. blackbalt89

    blackbalt89 Notebook Guru

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    The fact that Dell can't get a GD BIOS out that addresses the problems is actually making me angry.

    Is there anyone out there that can write their own BIOS? I've only owned a Dellienware for 2 months and I'm already furious with Dell.
     
  8. DeeX

    DeeX THz

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    I see all the anger but don't see any of you post or say anything in my complaint thread. Please consider making a BBB complaint and taking much time out to expressing this acknowledged issue to tech support. This needs to be addressed. (along with some other issues)
     
  9. Lord Zog

    Lord Zog Notebook Guru

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    Being Aptio 5, we can't build our own without breaking SecureBoot unless you want to buy a modified BIOS on a chip. (And no, I am not selling any.. Don't have the time to do a digikey order and manually flash these things...) Soldering skills not included. We don't even have a working MMTool for Aptio 5 yet... Only thing most people can do with this machine right now is update our ME Firmware to 9.1.30.1008 for the Windows 10 launch and proper Intel MEI compatibility... Will Dell release an updated BIOS with this integrated, or do we all have to flash manually??? ... Loosing faith...
     
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  10. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    Is the temperature higher due to lowered fanspeeds or are these the same?
     
  11. kakashisensei

    kakashisensei Notebook Consultant

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    Has anyone considered Dell/AW wants these lower fan tables in the new bios because they will more likely lead to cpu / gpu bga failures in 2-3 years, forcing people to buy a new laptop.
     
  12. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    I highly doubt they die out from these temps to be honest. But i rather have them cooler though. Good balance between fan noise and temps.
     
  13. Chris Lucca

    Chris Lucca Notebook Enthusiast

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    Hey Alienware-L_Porras! Thank you again for all the hard work you put into addressing the Alienware community's concerns, questions and compliments. I just want to make sure I accurately understand what you're saying here. Can you please elaborate on why the temperatures seem lower in the BIOS A00 release? I am concerned that the higher temps reported when I upgrade to A05 will lead to shortened chipset and fan life. Are these seemingly higher temps due to reading from a different sensor or are they truly just different fan tables that allow the laptop to cook a little longer and at higher temps before ramping up?

    I am running an Alienware 15 (Early 2015) with an i7 4710HQ, Nvidia 980M, and a 240W PSU. I am currently downgraded to BIOS A00, but will gladly update to a newer BIOS revision if it will keep my machine functioning as well as it does now with nominal temps ( <80*C)

    Thanks again for your help, and I look forward to your reply.
     
  14. daocguy

    daocguy Newbie

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    Hello , i'm just new here, i just got my AW 17 r2 just 2 weeks ago, 970m version, 180W psu and bios A05, i have no CPU throttling issues , but fans are not working at all , even with +80 C° , i must use a laptop cooler, that helps to decrease temps about 10 C°, but seriously , they need to fix the fan control and setting something on bios or make an app that makes fans work properly.
     
  15. daocguy

    daocguy Newbie

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    Ad i said in another thread, i just downgraded to bios A00 and finally i can hear fans even if they are running slow, they are working,and start to run a bit loud at about 65-70 C°, my temps dropped about 7-10 C° degrees, increasing the fan speed a bit would be awesome, i tryed HWinfo but it doesn't detect my fans. So bios A05 fans profile is completly silent for me even at higher temps 85+ C°,seems like are not working at all.
     
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  16. Kamingjackchan

    Kamingjackchan Newbie

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    I want to ask 17 r2 Alienware laptops, I used to play games and watch movies, I to replace the 240 w charger and use BIOS a00 right now
    Which BIOS is good FOR AW17 r2?
    BIOS a00 or a05 ?
    I found the BIOS a05 playing gtv5 FPS without charging and charging FPS is same. Around 57-64.It is normal?
    And BIOS a00 not charging playing gtv5 FPS go down to 30.charging go to 57-64.
    Hope someone can teach me
     
  17. gameOnU150

    gameOnU150 Notebook Enthusiast

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    ordered my alienware17 980m 256ssd i74710HQ on aug 17 , it is set to arrive on sept 10, what bios will it be sent with , and will it have throttle issues?
     
  18. lilw

    lilw Notebook Guru

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    1. It would come with a really bad SSD performance, trust me, SSD from Dell is not worth your money. Its speed only around over 100 MB/s writing, reading is over 500 MB/s which is good. But pay $300 for 2 SSDs with 256 GB is too expensive to compare with $200 SSD 500GB from the same manufacture (samsung) and its Read/Write is over 500 MB/s.

    2. BIOS should be the latest A05 and 180w psu. Since A05 kick its fans too late, nearly 90 C, so I would say yes, it will throttle if you're heavy gaming for like 30 mins?

    p/s: FYI, I bought Samsung 850 EVO 500 GB M.2 3.5-Inch SSD from amazon which cost me $200, right now I checked it's only $175. And the 128GB SSD I configured from Dell when bought my Alienware 17 is Samsung PM851 M.2 2280. I'm really regret about it.
     
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  19. gameOnU150

    gameOnU150 Notebook Enthusiast

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    thank you lilw, really appreciate it
     
  20. Ricky N

    Ricky N Newbie

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    How do I know if I have a 240w power supply?
     
  21. Ricky N

    Ricky N Newbie

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    How do I know if I have a 240w power supply?
     
  22. blackbalt89

    blackbalt89 Notebook Guru

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    The 240w has a blue LED on the end that plugs into the laptop. I can't remember but I'm pretty sure the 180 only had a light on the brick portion.
     
  23. Ricky N

    Ricky N Newbie

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    So I need to use a02 of I roll back correct?
     
  24. Ricky N

    Ricky N Newbie

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    I am confused as to what bios I should roll back to. I do not have 240w I do not believe.
     
  25. blackbalt89

    blackbalt89 Notebook Guru

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    A02 was the one that used supplemental power from your battery to make up for the 180.

    If you have a 180 you might benefit, BUT I'd try to get a 240 out of Dell first.

    If you have the 240 A00 is still the best bet I think. That's what I'm running. Temps in the 80ss even with cooling pad.
     
  26. Ricky N

    Ricky N Newbie

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    Well, I am probably just going to use HwInfo to drop temps when I need it. My only issue is it lags the audio and video when the fan changes speed.
     
  27. blackbalt89

    blackbalt89 Notebook Guru

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    Hwmonitor doesn't allow me to adjust the fans. Unless I'm not doing something right.
     
  28. Ricky N

    Ricky N Newbie

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    Assured, it does. I am just not comfortable with the way it just ramps the fan up to that speed opposed to a gradual climb in rpm to prevent hardware destruction.
     
  29. rinneh

    rinneh Notebook Prophet

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    The thing is, that if you use a cooling pad, you arent really cooling your machine more, you are just preventing the fans from ramping up their speed because the sensor tells these fans that the system is already cool enough.
     
  30. matthebatness

    matthebatness Newbie

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    [​IMG]
    I asked for a 240W one it is exactly this one, if yours is smaller you have the 180w model
     
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