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    AW 17R3 Best Buy 4k model came with a really slow SSD. Did yours?

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by Joshva, Jan 28, 2016.

  1. Joshva

    Joshva Notebook Consultant

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    I bought the Best Buy 4k model with the 128g SSD. It is a m.2 drive but it is not the Samsung P that others got, mine has a Samsung CM871 128g.

    Did yours come with that?
     
  2. altecX

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    Mine came from Dell with a Lite-On
     
  3. jpowell490

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    Mine has the same as yours from BestBuy and it is lightning fast! It boots in literally about 2 seconds. I push the button and it is on the desktop from a cold boot. Games load instantly too.
     
  4. altecX

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    "shut down" is really just a form of Deep sleep now. So it's not really a cold boot. To do cold boot you basically have to hit restart and then time to boot part of it. There is a cmd to change this but I don't know it off the top of my head.
     
  5. jpowell490

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    So you are telling me that when I shut down the laptop and leave it for 2 days, come back, remove it from the bag and boot it - that isn't a cold boot? I don't think so.
     
  6. iunlock

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    This was one thing I wasn't sure of....after I've installed my m.2 SSD, is there a setting that I need to change for it to be fully optimized to boot in seconds? My reads are 2.5+GB and writes are 1.5+GB, but when I boot it up it acts like a normal non m.2 SSD, time wise...

    What's the trick here to unleash this beast?
     
  7. altecX

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    M.2 is just the port used, it's not related to the speed of the drive. It's likely that the boot speed of your machine is not limited by the SSD speed. You do also have other pieces of hardware involved.
     
  8. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    My curiosity is sparked from something that I've read about some settings or what not...
     
  9. altecX

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    I have seen some people say they were having issues with the Freefall drivers, and removing them fixed whatever issue was they had with performance.
     
  10. iunlock

    iunlock 7980XE @ 5.4GHz

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    Ohhh gotcha. That sounds familiar now.

    Thanks!
     
  11. cris123

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    mine seems pretty fast, although when i hit shut down in windows, it takes forever to shutdown, the screen goes black but the keyboard stays lit for almost a minute maybe more, then turns off. guess thats normal. my asus g751 shuts down in a couple seconds and boots up pretty fast also.
     
  12. jpowell490

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    No, that is not normal. Sounds like you have another program running in the background that is causing it from shutting down immediately.

    Origin (EA Game Client) does that everytime I shut down, but I get a pop up to force close. You may want to review installed programs and see what it might be.
     
  13. Lozz

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    The 17" R3 I bought from bestbuy also had the same M2 SATA Drive, and I also noticed that it took a very long time to cold boot and shut down.

    The15 R2 I have now has the same 871 Samsung Drive but it's much quicker. There was clearly something wrong with 17" model, total boot time had to be around 2 minutes but I didn't keep it long enough to figure out.
     
  14. jpowell490

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    I will make a video of my cold boot tomorrow and post it on youtube for you. I am telling you, as soon as I hit the button it is on the login screen. I just enter the pin and BOOM. I mean if the pin was disabled, I could hit the button and be on the desktop in 2 seconds.
     
  15. jpowell490

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    Here you go, this is much slower than normal, but I just did some updates the other night and did not reboot. I just shut down. It is normally half of this time or less.

     
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    That is not a COLD BOOT. Learn to power off your machine. That blue line you are seeing at the bottom on AW logo is your hibernate!

    powercfg /H off

    That will be a COLD BOOT.
     
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  17. CountingCrows

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    Yes, that is not a cold boot and they are correct.
     
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  18. jpowell490

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    CountingCrows, go get me some fries with my shake. You are a moron.
     
  19. CountingCrows

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    We know who the "moron" is -- the certified one in fact with a video. So devoit of intelligence that thinks putting the laptop in a bag for 2 days will make it do "COLD BOOT"!

    Now go turn off hibernate and post again your 2 second cold boot video. Otherwise, go learn about computers.
     
  20. jpowell490

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    Yes, we do know who the moron is.....you. Here you go genius.

    Cold vs. warm reboot[edit]
    Technical sources describe two contrasting forms of reboot known as cold reboot (also cold boot, hard reboot or hard boot) and warm reboot (also warm boot, soft reboot or soft boot) although the definition of these forms slightly vary between sources.

    According to Jones, Landes, Tittel (2002), [1] Cooper (2002), [2] Tulloch (2002) [3] and Soper (2004), [4] on IBM PC compatible platform, a cold boot is a boot process in which the computer starts from a powerless state . All except Tulloch (2002) also mention that in cold boot, system performs a power-on self-test (POST). In addition to the power switch, Cooper (2002) and Soper (2004) also state that reset button may commence a cold reboot. Jones, Landes, Tittel (2002) contradicts this assertion and states that a reset button may commence either a cold or warm reboot, depending on the system. Microsoft Support article 102228[5] also confers that although the reset button is designed to perform a cold reboot, it may not disconnect the power to the motherboard – a state that does not correspond to the cold boot definition given above. According to Jones, Landes, Tittel (2002),:509 both the operating system and third-party software can initiate a cold boot; the restart command in Windows initiates a cold reboot, unless Shift key is held.

    Read all the underline, bold pieces there Leonardo DiVinci......

    And read some more books without real world knowledge. I make more in a day than you do in a week, so please, go misinform someone else.
     
  21. sirleeofroy

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    You could try turning off "Fast Startup" in your power settings. Weirdly, many machines boot much faster once this has been turned off.

    Also, some USB devices that are plugged in at boot could cause issues but I'm sure you know that ;) (USB Initialisation setting in BIOS maybe?)

    Just a thought...
     
  22. CountingCrows

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    I think you are extremely thick. I wouldn't expect any less from someone thinking that shoving a laptop in a bag for 2 days turns it off.

    Your machine is booting off of a hibernate file. I gave you the command to turn hibernate off. When you turn off hibernate, it powers off. Now, go post your 2 second "cold boot" with hibernate off. Otherwise, STFU and move on. BIOS Post takes 4 seconds. No windows machine is booting in 2 seconds. Period.

     
  23. sabesh

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    Do these Bestbuy models come with a USB Type-C / Thunderbolt port? Thx.

    Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
     
  24. altecX

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    All R3's should have that port.
     
  25. sabesh

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    Well, the Bestbuy specs don't list it & their images don't show the port either. But the Dell site lists and shows the port. Hence, curious to hear from folks who purchased from Bestbuy. Thanks.
     
  26. iunlock

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    There was a fellow NBR member who bought one from BB and took it back because it did NOT have the port.

    I'd give them a call to verify. I'm surprised myself that BB would have such models different from what AW offers....I don't get it LOL....
     
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  27. jpowell490

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    It has the port. I have one.
     
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  28. sabesh

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    Do you have the Bestbuy URL to the product page with the same part # / SKU you purchased? Thx.

    Sent from my Nexus 6P using Tapatalk
     
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    Then he got an R2, not an R3.
     
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  31. jpowell490

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    What do you mean altecX?
     
  32. sirleeofroy

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    Only 6XXX (eg: 6700HQ)series intel mobo and CPU supports USB-C and TB which would be the R3 model.

    The R2 model had 4XXX (eg: 4720HQ) series intel mobo and CPU and as such, does not support USB-C and TB.
     
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  33. altecX

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    This: ^^^^
     
  34. jpowell490

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    The bestbuy version is the R3
     
  35. sabesh

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    I got a 1080p Core i7-6820HK GTX 980M 8GB 17 R3 direct from Dell, and it came with an embarrassingly slow 128GB m.2 Samsung CM871 SSD. I wiped it and clean installed a Dell Windows 10 recovery image to my 500GB SATA Samsung EVO instead, and I haven't decided to do with the stock drive yet (maybe dual boot Linux or SteamOS, or buy a SATA-m.2 adapter and put it in another machine?).
     
  37. nickbarbs

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    ebay!
     
  38. sabesh

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    So, I went ahead and picked up the 4K model from Bestbuy Canada (was on sale for CAD $2,750). You are right: Despite the description & pictures, this one does have a USB Type-C port! Thanks.

    http://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product...b-ram-win10-eng-aw17r3-8342slv/10395738.aspx?