17 R4 + Alienware Amplifier + 2080Ti

Hi all,

Ended up waiting to buy all this as I decided to wait until nvidia's next GPU's.

Do we know if the 2080Ti is compatible? (connected to an external monitor)

Thanks.

 

Why wouldn't it be??

I see no reason as o why it shouldnt be compatible.

 

that's what I was thinking, thought I'd better be safe then sorry.

 

Well it's basicially just a casing with a PCI-E 16X slot with External PSU capabilities, which translates to the thunerbolt port from Alienware products, so it should be threated as a desktop slot really.

 

We don't know if it will be fully compatible. By fully compatible, I mean once you disconnect the AGA, you should still be able to use your internal GPU. There has to be driver support from AMD and Nvidia (the IDs in the INF file) for it to be fully compatible. There were issues early on with the 900-series GPUs not working because there was no driver support from Nvidia.
We also don't know if it'll be compatible at all since the AGA software must recognize it as well (but this is usually a non-factor).

 

Alienware official announced compatibility for all RTX cards on the AGA on a youtube stream a few weeks ago

 

Oh. Well that answers the question.

 

Awesome! Thanks guys!!!!! I think this way I can eek some more life from my R4, I just need to get the courage to repaste it now... On that note is there anyone in London/UK that would do this for me (I'd pay of course!)

Thanks

 

They say a lot of things that doesn’t happen. I would definitely not hold my breathe waiting. Someone will guinee pig it..

 

Pete Light?

 

Hey guys, sorry but any ideas which 2080Ti I should get? (that fits in the amplifier)

Thanks!

 

Get the best one and use a dremel to cut the top portion of AGA housing. @judal57 did this to fit Aorus GTX 1080Ti and swapped the stock PSU wihich didn't supply enough power and afterwards he LM'ed the chip and can destroy RTX 2080 in plain sight.

 

firestrike score : https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/28742647?

 

Oh wow, thats awesome - sadly I don't have the skills for any of that. I haven't even managed to repaste my CPU and GPU inside the laptop which I still need to get done...

I just need to know what I can get in terms of just leaving everything stock, though I could probably manage to change the PSU, assuming that doesn't require any drilling or cutting or anything like that....

 

hmm, I have an old PSU from my old desktop lying around, anyone know if it'll fit in the amplifier? It's a Corair AX1500i

 

you will have to mod a little bit the case inside, but it will fit

 

I'm curious as to the brand and the power output of the PSU you used.

I'm looking at buying an 17" R5 with an GTX 1060 and matching that to an AGA with an RTX2080 but the problem is the AGA only has a 375W PSU while the GPU requires up to 650W depending on the brand.

edit - actually a 2080Ti Founders Edition only requires 260W according to Nvidia and the quoted 650W is for system power so the AGA should be able to power the latest and greatest GPU without modification so long as it is only a dual wide card and the AGA has the correct supplemental power connectors. Does anyone know what supplements connectors are available in the AGA?

 

the power supply of the AGA can give you up to 460Watts (is not even a 80 plus certified PSU ) BUT it makes too much noise !!! the coil whine is insane, is like a little baby crying hahahahahahah so i bought an NZXT e650 (80 plus gold) power supply. i have to use my dremel to remove some "fins" on the top-inside the case, because as stock for a little bit it doesnt close. i choose this one because of the CAM. it allow you to see the actual power that the gpu is pulling from the PSU.
but you can buy a psu that can fit perfectly without modding, for example the seasonic SSR-550FX focus plus gold

 

Can you remember what supplemental connectors were available with the original PSU? I have read that that the 2080Ti requires 2 x 8 pin.

 

it comes with 2 of 8 pins, same as my gtx 1080ti aorus extreme

 

Thanks

 

Cheers for all the info guys!!

Thing is, I really don't have the necessary skills to be cutting or modding the amplifier. Regardless of noise, will the stock PSU inside the amplifier be enough to power a 2080Ti then?

Also I'm still a bit unsure as to what card i can get to fit in there too...

Will this?

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/pal...o-11gb-gddr6-vr-ready-graphics-card-4352-core

it looks like it might...?

 

Actually based on Dell saying a 1080 Ti is compatible (founders) it seems this one:

https://www.scan.co.uk/products/msi...raphics-card-4352-core-1350mhz-gpu-1635mhz-bo

will fit it's more or less the same size +0.5mm height, +1.3mm Length, however I can't for the life of me work out whether it's a dual slot card... (hoping it is!!!)

 

It might jsut fit, but really just. its slightly bigger than a 2 card slot card. The shroud sticks out for abotu 5 to 6mm.

 

oh ffs. The search continues!! If only I was any good at DIY!

Is the PSU inside the amplifier sufficient then? (noise aside)

 

There is no current gpu on the market that pulls too much power from the gpu.

The evga superclocked (non ftw) cards fit.

 

Cool, so I just need to get a card that fits then. You reckon that MSI card will be too big then?

 

Yeah unfortunately. All current custom coolers from msi are either too high or too wide.

 

Over in the AGA official thread we were hypothesizing that a 2080 Ti might not be the best idea for the AGA.

TPU did another PCIe bandwidth comparison and apparently the 2080 Ti notes a slight loss in performance between 16x and 8x (3-4%), so you can safely assume the performance loss between 16x and 4x will be even greater. I'm guessing around 8-10%

Factored into the already extremely lack luster generation over generation performance improvement combined with the absolutely outrageous costs, you MIGHT consider other options. Like saving 600 dollars and buying a 1080 Ti since the performance increase in an AGA will be around 15-20%(Assumed) ... is that worth 600 dollars to you? Sure aint to me.

Maybe some one will buy one and post a review, until then, I'd hold off.

Source; https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_RTX_2080_Ti_PCI-Express_Scaling/

 

Get the 1080 Ti and OC it to 2080 clocks to outmatch 2080 Ti in non Ray tracing games.

 

The FE 2080ti is 35% faster in non rtx games. You cant overcome that by overclocking.

 

Pretty much every reviewer i've watched shows a 25-30% increase (1080 Ti vs 2080 Ti). 35% is stretching.

Source:

Automatically deduct 10% because the GPU is in the AGA. You gonna sit there and tell this man that a 15-20% performance increase is worth 600 dollars?

You bought one, didn't you?

 

Did rinneh buy a RTX 2080 ti?
@judal57 has clocked his gtx 1080 ti and still trying to OC higher. I think he managed 2GHz on core and getting around a limit to push it further.

 

My last comment was just a sarcastic jab at his very lightly implied bias (35% perf).

i don't know if he bought one. It was just a joke.

Purely objectively, he isn't wrong. Gamer's nexus proved that you can't really over clock a 1080 Ti to match a 2080 Ti that is equally over clocked. But that isn't really what this is about. You are still gonna see performance loss from a 1080 Ti in your AGA, it will just be less pronounced than it would be on a 2080 Ti.

 

2ghz isnt unique and reviewers already did the tests.

 

Did reviewers try 1080 ti in AGA?

 

2.1 is impressive.

fully stable?

 

for gamign yes, for benchmarks no. 2076 is stable for benchmarks. its something related to nvidia power limit

 

Wow, thanks for all the info guys. You've swayed me into a 1080ti. Especially as I want to build a new desktop in the near future too...

Can anyone tell me which Ti to get? (that fits no case modding etc)

I'm also gaming at ultrawide 1440p so I don't think the OC will be that necessary anyway...

Thanks again for ALL the help and info guys!!

 

Now that you have made up your mind I might be about to change it again.

I have been following this thread and doing my own research at the same time because like you I was thinking of getting a 2080Ti but the price premium was putting me off. So I thought about getting a 1080Ti but a new 1080Ti (from ebay) costs as much as the 2080 (bought directly from Nvidia) and the 2080 is slightly faster. I am not going to be bench marking or overclocking and I think that having the newer tech card might be better in the long term. I still haven't finally decided which way I am going to jump but I thought I would throw that out there.

 

Well, considering I'd be building a desktop again soon, I think a used 1080 Ti will do me fine, plus I can use the left over money to buy a new HDD (want to move fully to SSD only so a 2TB would be nice)

 

If you are looking at second hand then the 1080Ti is probably the way to go. Great performance at a good price.

edit - so long as you can find one that has never been overclocked or bench marked and only ever been driven by a little old lady on Sundays to check her email

 

Yeah mate, You can buy used ones with a 2 yr warranty anyway...

 

Man, so confusing. I can only fine MSI OC 1080Ti and Founders....

Dell says the founders cards fit, I guess I'm limited to those options?

Thanks

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...p-supported-and-unsupported-card-list.810815/
There is a dedicated thread about cards that fit.

plus this for AGA owners
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nchmark-thread-all-13-15-and-17.770323/unread

 

Perfect, thanks again!!!!

 

That doesnt mean it is at 2080ti level of performance....

The only games where the performance is similar is when the engine has reached is limit (for example BF1 doesnt go over 200fps).

 

i have never said that it had the same performance of a 2080 ti. from benchmarks i can say i can surpass a 2080 founders edition on graphics without too much effort
https://www.3dmark.com/fs/16457282

 

For either the 1080 Ti or the 2080 or what ever you get, I highly recommend EVGA. They have the best warranty in the business! I was disappointed my 850 dollar (At the time, bought when first launched) 1080 Ti Hybrid FTW3 had such a cheap ass fan on the rad and such cheap ass build quality (every where but the PCB) but their warranty support is legendary and it automatically transfers to second hand owners which means ALL 1080 Ti's used or not used STILL have a warranty no matter where you buy it, Ebay craigs list, your local crack dealer. they are ALL still warrantied. Even if it was bought day one.

https://www.evga.com/warranty/graphics-cards/