[Confirmed RAM List + Feedback] - Alienware 17 R4 / 15 R3

The OP will be updated with the confirmed list of RAM's for the 17R4 and 15R3...

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Oi!

 

Hmmm...would it work?

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 32GB (2 x 16G) 260-Pin DDR4 SO-DIMM DDR4 3000 (PC4 24000) Laptop Memory Model F4-3000C16D-32GRS


https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-Ripj...=1477799488&sr=1-1&keywords=F4-3000C16D-32GRS

 

A cheaper option

Kingston Technology HyperX Impact 32GB Kit (2x16GB) 2400MHz DDR4 CL14 260-Pin SODIMM Laptop HX424S14IBK2/32

https://www.amazon.com/Kingston-Tec...9&sr=1-1&keywords=kingston+hyperx+impact+32gb

 

Ah I saw that as well...but I'm trying to see what's the fastest the AW can handle. As we know 2667MHz for sure.

Think it can handle 3000MHz RAM?

::iunlock::

 

Yes the mobo

As always g-skill delivers the highest OC.
regarding the 3000, i dont think dell would confirm that for selling their own chips.
So we would need someone to manually check that out.

 

I guess I'll be the gueana pig?

Will look more into it tomorrow.

::iunlock::

 

i dindt know but intel xtu alow me to reduce tRAS on my memory ... i think i can do overclock, what do you think @iunlock

 

i reduced the latency a little bit more

 

Crucial 32GB Kit (16GBx2) DDR4 2400 MT/s (PC4-192000) SODIMM 260-Pin Memory CT2K16G4SFD824A

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B019FRCV9G/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

Did you order these? I might as well just add this along with a few others to the confirmed list as they will work. I'm curious about the 2800 and 3000.

 

Yup, I am running these in my machine now. No issues to far.

 

Man... 3000Mhz ram in these laptops. Could launch the space shuttle from the back of your car.

 

I'm curious as to why anyone would want to put the higher speed memory in their computers, especially since the CAS latency on the DDR4 ram is really not good. You have to get well over 3000Mhz for the clocks to be able to offset the high latency, which gets very expensive fast. I'm getting the Kingston HyperX Impact 32GB kit ( http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820104667) to put in my 17R4, which is clocked at DDR4 2400 with a CL of 14, returning a realtime latency of just over 5ms, compared to the more than 6ms returned by most memory 2667Mhz+. Not to mention I've seen people able to overclock this RAM to over 2500Mhz while maintaining the low CL, so it's going to be the ticket winner for me.

 

Ordered the AW15R3 with 8 GB of 2400MHz of RAM. Looking to add an additional stick on arrival to achieve 16GB total. Would either of these sticks work?

Ballistix Sport LX 8GB 2400 MT/s
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01DGOF7EA...olid=1I9G9MM0FHNV8&coliid=IS510DLDGB5NK&psc=1

Crucial CT8G4SF824A 8GB 2400 MT/s
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B01BIWKP58...olid=1I9G9MM0FHNV8&coliid=IIHOQT9LDZ004&psc=1

Cheers!

 

Wont make any perceivable difference at all 3000/2400/2133 all with 1-2 fps max

all this high speed ram in a gaming laptop or desktop for that matter is pure snake oil, as said already it'd all about the CAS Latency

 

Hi iunlock. You have g.skill 3000mhz installed in to 17 r4? I have them too Did you manage to run to 3000mhz? My 17 r4 recognizes as 2400mhz only. Does not read EMP profiles...

 

Only 2400MHz.... we should get @dspboys and @richiec77 in here as they were just working on this yesterday.

 

I change them for Corsair 2667 that already had. They work very well too. I do not think they throw a bios to read emp profiles.

 

You mean the default speed for Corsair is 2667? The 32GB G. Skill by default will be read at 2400. Maybe you can use XTU to switch to the XMP profile(s).

Warning: If your laptop does not boot after switching to XMP profile(s), be prepared to do an NVRAM reset.

 

yes, default is 2667 in Corsair. I don't see the option to change xmp profile in Intel Extreme Tuning Utility. I thought it was just only for cpu tunning. Are you sure you can change it from XTU?

 

There are no XMP or RAM triming controls in the BIOS on either 1.0.2 or 1.0.8. Dell does offer DDR4-2667 RAM as an option so I HOPE they have tested that...although I'm not going to hold my breath with some of the crap lately.

RAM will make for small changes in performance. If you are increasing capacity..it's worth it. For pure speed, this isn't DDR1/2 days. Changes in REAL WORLD USEAGE will be next to impossible to notice. Money is better spent on more storage for the m.2 slots.

EDIT:...If you can use Optimus, iGPU's CAN ACTUALLY benefit from additional RAM speed and decreased latency. That's the only Real World benefit I can see from the additional speed.

 

I agree with you. I already have reserved 2 ssd Samsung 960 pro x 1tb. Arrive in January.

 

HOLY CRAP!!!! NICE!!! I have a Samsung 950 512GB I need to install. Waiting on the Conductonaut to come in before installing all the newest hardware.

You going to try for RAID 0 with those 2 drives? The definitely is Support in the BIOS for that. Curious to know if the DMI 3.0 in these laptops can handle all that speed. Should as this has been tested with other Z170 systems that have DMI 3.0 but this is the laptop setup, not desktop. Also wonder if the NON-Cooled PCH in this system can handle the additional heat this kind of speed may create.

 

I will create a raid 0. I already used it on my previous 17r3 with 2 Samsung 950 pro x 512gb and it worked fine (even though one of the ports was only pcie x2).

I plan to install heatsinks to 960 pro discs. I think that will suffice to beat the problem of temperature.

I will first try these Thermal Heatsink Copper (3 in each ssd)
https://www.amazon.com/Chipset-Ther...id=1481022404&sr=8-6&keywords=heatsinks+20x20

or this Aluminum Heatsink
https://www.amazon.com/uxcell-20mm-...d=1481022718&sr=8-49&keywords=heatsinks+20x20

 

Guys, are there any 32GB ddr4 sticks ? I need to upgrade my alienware 17 R4 to 64GB ram.

 

Then you are screwed. 16GB sticks is max. AW was saved by memory manufacturers who increased the ram stick size to 16GB last year. The norm was 2x8GB.

 

Hey there 343, did you get that hyper x ram linked below ? I have the i7-6820hk Alienware 17r4 and I'm trying to decide on a 32gb ram kit.

 

Funny that you're posting this now, because I just got the HyperX ram and tried installing it yesterday. For now, I'd recommend you hold off on the upgrade until a few of us have a chance to test some different memory types. Regarding the HyperX stuff, preliminary report is that it *does not* work, and for the life of me I am unsure why. Here is the situation:

• I took the laptop cover off, removed battery. Replaced RAM, and the laptop would not boot, no POST. Power LED blinks red twice, blue four times. Tried holding FN to boot into the system test, no luck.
• Performed an NVRAM reset by detaching the CMOS battery and doing a power drain. I also did the trick where you insert the memory slot very quickly after a reboot in this state. No dice.
• After further research, I have determined that both RAM sticks are functional. The laptop will boot if either new ram stick is in slot 1, but if either is placed in slot 2, alone or together with the other stick, the computer will not boot.
• To double blind check, I tested my old RAM (the crucial 2x8GB that came with the system) and both sticks work independently in slot 2.

It's kind of pissing me off too, because this stuff is hands down the best ddr4 on the market in terms of CAS latency. The next best thing is CL16@2400, which bumps response time on the memory up by nearly 1.5ns -- totally unacceptable in my mind. No idea what's wrong here. If anyone has any ideas, be sure to let me know. I'm going to tag some people who are smarter than me now

@iunlock @Papusan @Galm @richiec77 @dspboys

 

Weird. 2 Red flashes is a POST error No Memory/RAM detected. You've restested with both slots filled with the old RAM?

If the computer can POST with both slots filled with the old RAM, that proves there is no damage to the slots. What CPU do you have?

Ram controller is built into the CPU. I don't think there's anything built into the mem sticks that allows for 2 channel operation but I need to research that.

Try this test: 1 new RAM stick slot 1, 1 older 8GB stick in slot 2and see if you can POST.

 

Awwww Jeeze, sorry to hear about that. I'll keep watching this thread for good news, and keep you posted too!

 

I'm not sure I'd want to do that, as the memory is of two vastly different types in terms of CL (17 vs 14). I'm not sure how well they'd adjust to one another. The processor is the 6820hk. With the old ram, it works just fine, in either slot or in both. With the new ram, it works just fine in slot 1 but never works in slot two.

 

Just spoke with a Crucial rep who has "Guaranteed" that this RAM will work in my Alienware 17 R4: www.crucial.com/usa/en/alienware-17-r4/CT9511927

I'll install the ram when it arrives next week and keep y'all updated.

My alienware 17r4 specs:

• Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-6820HK (Quad-Core, 8MB Cache, Dynamically Overclocked up to 4.1GHz)
• Windows 10 Home-HE (64bit) English
• NVIDIA(R) GeForce(R) GTX 1070 with 8GB GDDR5
• 17.3 inch UHD (3840 x 2160) IPS Anti-Glare 300-nits Display with Tobii IR Eye-tracking
• 16GB DDR4-2400MHz; up to 32GB (additional memory sold separately)
• 512GB PCIe SSD (Boot) + 1TB 7200RPM SATA 6Gb/s (Storage)
• Killer 1535 802.11ac 2x2 WiFi and Bluetooth 4.1
• Lithium Ion (99 Wh) Battery

 

Vengeance® Series 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 SODIMM 2666MHz CL18 Memory Kit (CMSX32GX4M2A2666C18)

• Density: 32GB (2x16GB)
• Speed: 2666MHz
• Tested Latency: 18-19-19-39
• Auto-overclocking with compatible notebooks (no BIOS configuration required).

Works great on the new i7 Skylake CPU mine is the Alienware 17-R4 clocks to 4.1ghz and this memory ram runs fantastic 32gb of blazing fastness!!!
High bandwidth and latency time!!!

 

You do realize high latency isn't a good thing?

 

Aida64 cache and memory benchmark

Corsair ddr4-2666 (18-19-19-39)
Latency time is 68.9 ns
Read 35.093 mb/s
Write 41213 mb/s
Copy 35.570 mb/s

And this is ddr4-2133 (15-15-15-36)
Latency time is 74.4 ns
Read 29.894 mb/s
Write 32.379 mb/s
Copy 29.696 mb/s

the bandwidth are excellent and according to expectations, even the actual latency numbers (in terms of ns rather than clock cycles) are better than the Kingston HyperX kit...

 

Sure, for the 2133 stuff. Nowhere close for 2400@CL14. Check out the data sheet here: http://www.kingston.com/dataSheets/HX424S14IBK2_32.pdf

46.75ns...a little better methinks XD

 

jaja Just run Aida64 cache and memory benchmark and tell me your REAL LIFE latency time in ns...

Looks this

 

Do you think that 3000Mhz Corsair Ram will work. I've seen that 2666Mhz works but nothing about 3000Mhz. Has a better CAS latency.

 

I believe there is no appreciable difference between corsair (2666) and hyperx (2400) latency time...

You might think that the memory is a bit better at 2400 Mhz that of 2666 Mhz. But this difference is more than compensated for the latter since having a higher frequency has many more cycles in which to transmit data.

I believe a higher frequency is always better, since there are more clock cycles in which to transmit data. In addition, the latency will then be practically the same since in spite of having more clock cycles of waiting, these are shorter to operate to greater frequency.

 

I bought some new RAM for my 15 R3, its the HyperX 2400 CL14. I returned it due to having a white smudge near the capacitors/fuses. I didn't notice it until after I opened it. Got my replacement RAM today (same kind) and before opening it I decided to look at the contacts and it's definitely been in a machine at least once. My question is - does RAM physically get tested inside of a machine which will leave marks on the contacts? I never really cared to look, but when it comes to Amazon (they've sent me "used" stuff as "new" before whether its their fault or another companies), I kinda question their "new" electronics and considering its going in a 2000$ laptop, I think its fair to be safe. I mean the package has a "100% tested" sticker on it. But then if it was 100% tested and new, why would it have this white leakage looking thing?

 

I never happened to me I think they have a lifetime warranty. If you are not sure, ask for another change.

 

Cheapo Samsung OEM ram serves the same purpose, only with better speed

 

jajaja Are you kidding? Desktop pc don't count.

 

See my sig

 

yes, i see... In my country there is a saying that: "Si tiene cuatro patas, cola y ladra... es un perro"

z170 desktop chipset and desktop CPU... is Desktop

 

Corsair 2666mhz DDR4 SODIMM

 

All that glisters is not gold—
Often have you heard that told.
Many a man his life hath sold
But my outside to behold.
Gilded tombs do worms enfold.
Had you been as wise as bold,
Young in limbs, in judgment old,
Your answer had not been inscrolled
Fare you well. Your suit is cold—
Cold, indeed, and labor lost.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_that_glitters_is_not_gold