[CPU + GPU Temperatures + Benchmarks] - Alienware 17 R4 / 15 R3

Yeah I saw the video, thing is the guy wrote in the comments of the previous video that it improved the temps, but It's not the case, I think the 1.0.6 bios is bugged, it was programed quickly in order to give it to reviewers rapidly IMO, but it's an epic fail ^^...

 

43X Test Run - wPrime - (Preliminary run.)

68C @ 95.438W ... This new cooling system is very nice. I'm pretty intrigued with it as this is the best that I've seen to date.


My Ambient Temp is always around ~20-23C consistently.

 

Forgot to run OCCT - Never used it before, these are just some initial tests, not done testing.

Alienware 17 R4 - i76820HK @ 4.1GHz via BIOS (41-41-41-41-0-100000-100000)
GTX 1070 Laptop Overclock at +80mhz Base / +200Mhz Memory
KBoost Active via MSI Afterburner
IC Diamond Repaste that I did tonight

Not sure why it says Firestrike is invalid, says my time is wrong :-/

Temps below were checked after Heaven, I didn't get a screenshot after heaven, they were up about 64C Max GPU and 87 Max CPU according to MSI Afterburner for my entire session

I'm going to tweak my overlocks some more tommorrow - I think this GPU can be pushed a little more! but 80/200 is pretty nice for a laptop GPU!

I have a Graphics Amplifier with a GTX 1080 FTW as well - but the card was bad from eVGA (issue that effects 3-4% of cards) so they are shipping me a new one which arrives tuesday.

 

Hey man, this is interesting I just found your file on 3dmark.

Take a look at this comparison.

My CPU is 4.1GHz

GPU is +130mhz / +200mhz

Curious how my CPU is higher but my GPU wont push anymore (150mhz makes no difference on base clock)

 

Should i bring my CPU to 4.0GHz and use the same GPU settings? curious if that would boost GPU speeds

 

CPU: 6820HK @ 4.0GHz True - Undervolted by 0.5v (max stable)
GPU: GTX 1070 Laptop - Overclocked by +220Mhz Base / 200Mhz Memory

Any higher on the GPU and it gets unstable
Any higher on the CPU and it seems to slow down the GPU somewhat cuz i have to raise voltage to 1.2 again at 4.1GHz
Great for editing and production (would love to find my true CPU max)

I just need to figure out a good combination of the two:

1 for gaming
1 for daily work
1 for production

And make some profiles for each that i can quickly switch to

Do we know if it's possible to raise the GPU voltage on the Laptop GTX 1070 so it can hit the limit of 1.093 V that I believe it actually has? since obviously it's not getting too hot at all LOL

 

Why should you lower the processor clockspeed? If the PSU can deliver enough power for both Cpu + gpu, just put up highest possible processor clockspeed you can manage within thermal threshold. Maybe the motherboard/firmware has a power limit with maxed cpu/gpu? Same as Dell crippled their last AW18? Higher clockspeed on processor shouldn't limit the graphics performance, rather opposite

 

better than having 2X 330W and performs worse than their laptops ... that hurt, no ?

 

So you prefer downclocking a processor who have weak power from before? Maybe rather select 6700Hq who is maxed with lower 3.1 GHz on all 4 cores!!
http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...16-owners-lounge.797458/page-17#post-10373386

 

Argh I just did 3d mark with time spy on my completly stock alienware 15 120Hz and I got:

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15700513

A tad below expected

I did not add any performance bios options.

The temps I got were:

http://imgur.com/a/2zsVF

For the gpu they are great but the cpu seems to be going way to hot. I'm pretty sure it's throttling down.

I am a little bit concerned over cpu temps, are they normal? Also it should be noted that the drivers seem to need a lot of tweaking still on the 120Hz version. Screen sometimes flashed black (the newer drivers from nvidia won't even work)

 

Those temps in 3Dmark are 'normal', do a repaste with a decent thermal paste, apply a small undervolt (~100mV but test thoroughly the stability) using throttlestop, sit back and enjoy the -20°C

 

I've never repasted. I'm afraid to screw up but I will look into it.

 

Ok I understand ^^, if you never repasted or opened a laptop before it can be scary; don't forget that there a lot of guides and videos about repasting and opening the alienware 15R3 So IF you feel like repasting look at them thoroughly. Try undervolting that will also have a positive effect and you won't have to open up anything.

 

My issues are just with the repasting, I'm afraid I'll get it wrong and get air bubbles and end up with a broken laptop.

 

The repasting isnt that Hard. U could just draw a thin line (or a Cross, depending which opinion u wann to follow ) and put the heatsink back on.
thats it!

 

call Dell ans ask for a repaste job, but be with your own thermal paste ... non conductive, like IC diamond 7 or gelid extreme and ask to the technican to use your paste, in other words force him hahah

 

@Papusan - is bga still trash now? 68C @ 95.438W, can yours match the Alienware without cheating with Norwegian subzero ambient temperature?

Why haven't you replied? :0

Did he come close to your 6700K score? This is a mobile BGA trash craptop gamer-boy n00b chip only on 4.3GHz dances around 4sec, while your elitist socketed masterrace 4.9GHz 6700K is also in the 4 second range

I guess the heatsink of BGA machine is still gimmick.

 

I have not had time to study so much. A wimpy 4.3 GHz is ok for a BGA. But I will forever call BGA pure trash!! Just look at the core voltage on these chips. Quite AWFUL. Even the good silicon is awful. I run same bench with [email protected] GHz. Can those BGA do that? And there are still plenty of other bench tests who remains.

But @iunlock shall have cred for his testing. +rep
I would been very sick/disgusted for several days if I had been in his shoe and should be responsible for this testing. I will never accept JUNK bro.

 

Give me a Chromebook and I'll bench the lights out of that. jk but you get the point haha... Heck I even bench my Android phones as they have CPU and GPU benchmark tests on there all due to the love of the sport to push things to the limit, bga or not. After I'm done with this on it goes to one of my family members. She'll be rocking a liquid metaled gaming laptop with excellent thermals with a GTX 1070...not bad lol.

Benching as we all know as enthusiasts takes a lot of time and dedication, so yea...even though I may not like something I'll always give credit as well to those who take the time to do what they do...but...

I'm not done with this and just getting started...46x is shaky and might can get passed a quick wPrime run, but I'm pretty optimistic that 44x and likely 45x will be stable. Right now I haven't even focused on anything other than 46x, but maybe I'll swift the focus to 45x now, because I'm itching to get on with some benching....

 

LOL That's not why, it's the tempurature bleed from the CPU + GPU both in overclock levels.

If i run my CPU at 4.0GHz I can undervolt my CPU by -0.055v which lowers the overall temps of my laptop.

This allows me to sustain 2.1GHz clock speeds on my GTX 1070 overclocked with kboost and produce a higher 3dmark score.

Has nothing to do with power limit. I bet using liquid metal would lower even more. There's just some temp bleed between the two which is throttling down my GPU at high overclocked speeds to hit lower scores is all

4.0GHz and 4.1GHz are still overclocked over stock. I'm not having to run the thing at stock levels, just a max for gaming.


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Let's flip the coin further, if im not gaming and doing video editing, im going to overclock my machine at 4.3GHz + because it's not running the GPU at max load, so the temps are lower. I can run it just fine at that level but when they are both hitting high levels then it starts temp throttling

that's all I'm saying so its creating a balance of voltage, tempurature and overlcock on both GPU and CPU together

I discovered that turning off integrated graphics and using only an external display lowered my temps even more so going to do more tests tonight on that setup.

if im gonna run my eGPU with GTX 1080 and turn off my laptop GTX 1070, im gonna boost my CPU overclock past 4.3GHz to max out the power of the GTX 1080 running external since there's no temp bleed from any GPU

 

man my 6820HK runs at 4.1-4.3GHZ on all 4 cores no problem. I'm ok with that.

 

Just hit 5801 with CPU @ 4.1GHz - GTX 1070 Laptop at +220mhz/+300Mhz

I used an external 4K display with MiniDisplay Port 1.2 to get this score

My score dropped by about 30 points when I used the laptop screen to 5773

Unfortunately it says my score is invalid cuz its a "Generic GPU" lol

My score popped up by over 120 points just by turning off the integrated graphics chip on the system. Seems to add alot of additional heat for no reason!! See comparison

4K Display Score - compared to score with integrated graphics chip still enabled

By turning off the integrated chip I was able to push my CPU from 4.0Ghz to 4.1GHz and get lower temps on both CPU and GPU so that made a huge difference.

Before when I was at 4.1GHz it was overheating the GPU and throttling its speeds so had to benchmark at 4.0 to get better score.

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BELOW is 4.1GHZ @ 4.1GHz - GTX 1070 Laptop at +220mhz/+300Mhz external 4K display with MiniDisplay Port 1.2 to get this score







here's the internal graphics display score - also showed up as Generic GPU when the integrated chip was disabled

Still 4.1GHz and 220/300 on GPU but used internal display instead of external

 

Just did one more test at 4.2GHz - stable at 1.2V

Great for computing - etc - but the tempurature bleed in gaming killed the GTX 1070 by almost 100 3dmark points.

The CPU went up to 95 degrees during the 3dmark benchmark and throttled the GPU down a bit.

CPU Also ended up throttling itself a bit cuz the CPU score at 4.2GHz came in LOWER than 4.1GHz on the benchmark

 

Curious to me I got better 3D performance with 4.1GHz and a 3.6 Cache than I did with a 4.1GHz cache.

The higher cache speed seems to create some increased temps
That's slightly throttle the GPU a bit.

 

Fire Strike: 16,184

GTX 1080 Territory on a 1070. Just getting started....this is a preliminary run...

New Personal Best: @ only 4.2GHz

* So annoying that it throws that message of the graphics card not being recognized...we all know that's not true...These scores are recorded and will be validated accordingly on the 3DMark Server.

Physics Score: 13,139 @ 4.2GHz

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10628487



Time Spy: 5976

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/658765

 

Why does it keep saying GPU generic? Any idea?

 

Because the notebook is so new the hardware ID hasn't been updated to their database yet, however this will be updated and everything will show as validated soon.

 

Sky Driver 1.0

http://www.3dmark.com/sd/4369341

 

Hi @ all: Could anyone please tell me some healthy daily OC settings for the CPU and GPU for the Alienware 17R4 with 6820HK and 1070. I have the stock paste. What need to be configured in XTU and MSI Afterburner?

 

36x or 38x on your multipliers will cruise along great. Just go into BIOS and set your multipliers to: 36x on all four cores and change your Power Limit 1 and 2 to 100000.

For fun, see if you can get away with 40x as it should be able to handle it no problem. If you have a chip that is willing, you could get away with 41x as well. Remember to change your PL1 and PL2 to 100000.