[CPU + GPU Temperatures + Benchmarks] - Alienware 17 R4 / 15 R3

Please copy and paste the format below and post your temperatures as many are curious about the Skylake and Pascal chips and how they do temp wise in the new machines

* Feel free to tweak the post to your liking as the main point and purpose here is, "Organization."

Guidelines:

• CPU: OCCT
• GPU: FireStrike | Unigine Heaven
• Temp Monitoring App: HWiNFO64
• Notebook is to be placed on a flat surface without any laptop cooler.
  
• The rear of the notebook may be lifted.
  
• This is not a race or a competition.

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Machine Specs:
SIZE: 17 R4
CPU: 6820HK
GPU: GTX 1070
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BONE STOCK OUT OF THE BOX RUNS:

Ambient Temp: 23C

CPU Stock Clocks:

[OCCT for 15 minutes.]

• CPU Max Temp (Stock Fan Profile): 83C
• CPU Max Temp (Performance Fan Profile): __C

GPU Stock Clocks:

[Unigine Heaven at 1080p Max Settings]

• GPU Max Temp: 57C

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AFTER A REPASTE AND TUNING RUNS:

Ambient Temp: 23C

CPU Modded / Tuned / Over-Clocked / Under Volted:

[OCCT for 15 minutes.]

• CPU Max Temp (Stock Fan): __C
• CPU Max Temp (Performance Fan): __C
• Volt +/-: -___mv Core / -___mv Cache

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GPU Over-Clocked:

[Unigine Heaven at 1080p Max Settings. SEE BELOW FOR SETTINGS.]

• GPU Max Temp: ##C @ ####MHz

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Links / Screenshots / Scores - Benchmark Scores/Validation:

• HWiNFO64: (Post screen shots showing temps.)
• FireStrike:
• TimeSpy:
• Cinebench R15:
• OCCT: (30 minutes minimum.)
• Gaming: (Game, Settings, Duration...)

Notes:
Please provide any additional info. that you would like to share.

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Organization is key and I hope this helps others who are seeking this info.

* If there are any additional categories or info that you would like to see added, please let me know and I'll update the OP.

Cheers

Unigine Heaven Settings Guideline:


Update:

Here is a video of the fan noise. 17R4.

Put on ear phones and listen closely as I've tried to get the most accurate representation of the fan noise using several adjustments on the manual controls to record this audio.

The fans are a soft whooshh sound and it is not bothersome. (At least to me.)

Enjoy...



Update:

Important note: For those of you with the 15R3, keep in mind that the fans are smaller than the 17R4 so don't get let down by not being able to achieve the temps of the 17R4. Expect to have a little higher temps from the 17R4's, but if you repaste with liquid metal you should be well within the comfortable range so no need to worry.

The CFM ratings for the 15R3 are:
7.6 and 8.7

The CFM ratings for the 17R4 are:
12.1 and 12.8

This translates to the CPU fans being ~37% larger (CFM capacity, not physical size) and the GPU fans being ~32% larger on the 17R4, which is a big difference guys in its ability to pump out air so again, 15R3 owners, don't be discouraged.

Spoiler alert...

Can the 15R3 achieve as good of temps as the 17R4? - Drum roll....

YES! In fact, if you have a chip that is a silicon lottery winner, you can tune it to achieve some great temps! I've been here at my work station tuning a 15R3 for hours and finally found the sweet spot...check out the results! (BTW notice the even core temps?)

1 HOUR of running OCCT. (Check out the average temps!)

 

BONE STOCK RUN:

GPU Temp stayed in the mid to upper 50C's.


Run 2:


Avg Temp After the Run:


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With a little spice...



BONE STOCK: Gaming KF2 (Max Settings) after 35 minutes.

GPU Peaked at 58C.


BONE STOCK: OCCT RUN for ~15 minutes.



OC'd to 40x Core and 40x Cache = True 4.0GHz.

OCCT for 1 Hour!



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BONE STOCK: Fire Strike 13,902

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10551471



BONE STOCK: Time Spy 5,341

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/622035


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New Personal Best:

GTX 1080 Territory on a 1070. Just getting started....this is a preliminary run...

New Personal Best: @ only 4.2GHz

* So annoying that it throws that message of the graphics card not being recognized...we all know that's not true...These scores are recorded and will be validated accordingly on the 3DMark Server.

Physics Score: 13,139 @ 4.2GHz

Fire Strike - 16184

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10628487


Another PR: 11/1/16

It's nice to be in the GTX 1080 territory...

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10645132


Time Spy: 5999 ...+1? Ahh...I'll break 6K for sure...but for now...

What a tease...Literally scratching 6000's ....for a GTX1070, not too shabby....

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/670331


And here it is...

Finally broke into the 6K...

http://www.3dmark.com/spy/795874


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Sky Driver 1.0

http://www.3dmark.com/sd/4369341


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40x Core and 40x on Cache: Cinebench R15


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For now. There are a lot of great enthusiasts out there, so it'll be fun to see some results.




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wPrime:

43X Test Run - wPrime - (Preliminary run.)



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Update:

Revised PCH Mod.
(Revised and Improved over the copper shim method that I had posted here.)

Thanks for being patient guys. I just had to make sure before publishing this (long duration tests)...many many tests later, it's sealed and confirmed. It works great.


Enjoy

 

Can you post your ASIC quality?

Edit: my bad quick read, and thought Firestrike was Mark 11. Your score is Good

 

ASIC quialty checks do not work on Pascal cards.

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

 

Is just not supported yet? or will it never happen?

 

That's a good question. No idea. Just know it's not supposed as of today so there is nway to report ASIC quality.

Sent from my SM-N910T using Tapatalk

 

@iunlock can you see the pch temperature ??
on the other hand, really good performance !! is a little beast

 

Is the gpu max temp really 58c!! Never seen any laptop with this low max temp!! Did you tried furmark?

 

On my AW15R2 after repasting my OC-ed 980M also only reaches 62c under full load while playing BF1. So I am not surprised this is continued in the new series.

 

UPDATE: (10/23/16)

REPASTE (Grizzly Conductonaut) SUCCESSFUL AND WOW...

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BELIEVE THIS...

STAY TUNED...(Literally just finished up. Running OCCT while cleaning up.)

Edit: Oops, just noticed that I posted this in the wrong thread LOL...oh well..I'll leave it...make sure to check the:
[Alienware 17R4 / 15R3] - Disassembly + Repaste Guide + Results

thread tomorrow.

 

Mega, thanks for all your work posting all this!

Please give us an idea of temps in real world, after an hour or two in a current game? would really appreciate that

cool runnins

 

My pleasure. It doesn't get any more Real World that this If it can handle this beating, it'll tackle real world stuff like a knife and butter.

Enjoy!

Here they are... (Make sure to check the the repaste and disassembly thread for more...)

STOCK PASTE: (Notice that this is just a 1 5 minute run and look at the Max Temps, then look at the 30 minute run below. The temps kept rising on this run when getting close to 30 minutes.)


AFTER: 30 minutes (Liquid Magic. Grizzly Conductoanut. Look at them Temps!)


Ambient Temp:


Update:

I just left it running...here it is after 1 Hour!




UPDATE:

So while cleaning up I just left it on...2 Hours Later...Nothings changed...I would say: "TEST -> PASSED."


UPDATE:

While I'm working on the Repaste guide I just left it on...3 Hours Later...Nothings changed...

Is the new AW cooling system a gimmick? - NOPE.

All rise...Case closed.

 

You just convinced me of repasting, I won't be using liquid metal but ICD should still be better than the toothpaste used.

 

I'd highly recommend to go with either: Grizzly Kyronaut and/or Gelid Extreme.

Those are IMO the two best traditional pastes available.

I personally don't like ICD for many reasons...If you can, it's worth ordering any of the two above.

ICD scratches the crap out of the die...even though it doesn't affect the performance...ehhh...



Plus, it's really not that good of a paste IMO....I've used it plenty....

A lot of those who have it are DTR owners like myself where it comes stock from the reseller. There are two reasons why ICD is used. For one, some of the resellers are sponsored by ICD so they likely get it cheap...bulk...Two, it's a very thick paste so it fills the gaps well for any tolerance issues that may exist between the CPU/GPU and Heat Sink.

There are much better options.

 

Thanks man! U just cost me £2000 lol

 

LOL what?
@iunlock did u downclock the CPU? Cause in occt the 6820hk only reaches 3.2GHz

 

ICD for me has one very strong argument : its viscosity, this thing is simple to apply and lasts several years, i do not plan on opening the AW each few months. The performance are 1/2°C near the kryonaut. Laptops has less vertical pressure when it comes to their heatsink so a good viscosity is important IMO.

Regarding abrasion I totally agree, I know it scratches the die but it's really superficial and frankly I really don't care about that.

I will do my repasting in few hours, I read the manual and it's nicely detailed so that's cool.

btw : I can't see your pictures, as previously reported, try maybe changing the image upload website. Thanks for everything it really helps !

 

ICD will scratch your DIE. Use Gelid Extreme as it will get similar results but wont scratch.
Also a bonus is that Gelid is not conductive at all, its a paste.
There are several comparisons online that show Gelid Extreme to be good.
Heres proof.




AND MORE PROOF

 

Went into BIOS and set everything to default. The frequency was a little jumpy but maintained pretty consistently. Much more tests coming....

 

wow this looks amazing, i am totally thrilled!! by any chance do you have any video of repasting, as I have heard one has to be very careful while using liquid metal, since a little spillover can damange the whole board. So a video / instructions can be really helpful for first time users.

Secondly off topic, but do you have any idea how to completely remove Intel rapid storage from my Alienware, do I need to uninstall certain devices from the device manager?

 

Repaste guide just went live! Enjoy

 

I meant posting results this good have pushed me over the edge into buying one now

Just going to wait for the QHD - 120hz panel and maybe the 1080 though i think the 1070 will be good enough at 1440p

 

And it gets even better...here's something else for you

CPU OC'ed to 4.0GHz and also 40x on the Cache. True 4.0GHz OC ...

Look at the current temps, max and also average. It's just crazy...

 

you say Your planning on a 1080 version as well? any idea when we can order those? I suppose the QHD will be available then as well.... I Hope

 

Just started...but so far...

 

@hmscott, to answer your question from the other thread that has retired the answer to what I think are the best daily driver settings are as follows.

Gas Mileage settings:
36X on all for cores

Performance Settings: (These are my daily driver settings)
40x on all four cores and 40x on the cache.

Here is a video of the fan noise. 17R4.

Put on ear phones and listen closely as I've tried to get the most accurate representation of the fan noise using several adjustments on the manual controls to record this audio.

The fans are a soft whooshh sound and it is not bothersome. (At least to me.)

Enjoy...

 

Hi all! I am really considering to drop some of my hard earned $$$ on the 15'' version with 1070, 6820HK and 1080p 120 g-sync monitor but I have stumbled across some articles that warned about the cooling solution and the most compelling is this one:



I came to ask the question if it's accurate and if anyone with 15 r3 with those specs had similar problems.

Thank you all for help! These are some amazing posts here so far!

Cheers!

 

New Personal Best:

Fire Strike - 15399

* So annoying that it throws that message of the graphics card not being recognized...we all know that's not true...I may have to just reinstall the driver. :/

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/15643301


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Time Spy - 5854

 

Why is the physics score so low? This physics score can't be done by 4.3 GHz. What clockspeed have you? 4.1 GHz on all cores? With 4.3 GHz on single core?

 

40x and why would I run 43x on one core?

 

Pascal cards hamper the physics score by the way. I lose around 1500 points with a 1070 compared to a 970. Dont know why.

 

Why is 3DM Firestrike monitoring 4.290 GHz? A bug?


@rinneh People with Pascal graphics and the new Clevo models don't have problems with physics score. Maybe something else is up with your setup.

 

The physics score can be higher, which I'm working on now...been busy tuning 46x, but I'll get back to 43x and spend some time with that.

 

Ok. But you said *you use 40x and why should I run 4.3 GHz on 1 core!!* Why can 4.3 GHz be monitored by 3DM? Because I can see your previous 3DM bench is executed with 3.9 GHz on one core. I expect/know Futuremark software read max clockspeed correctly on processor And please Run also 3DM11 who push Processor a lot more.

 

What I meant was, "why would I set just one core to 43x?" It seemed like a sillly assumption and I was surprised that you would even assume that.

That run was my second run right while I was messing with the 43x settings so it was still tuning. During the test it may have dipped to 40x, which is why the physics isn't where it needs to be.

I'm working on it now...either way one thing is for sure. That score will be much higher once I'm done with this....it's just begun....

 

May have dipped to 4.0 GHz? You said previous in post #40 you benched with 4.oGHz I ask because what you say isn't correct.

 

Yes it obviously dipped look at the physics. I also said that I had just started with the settings. You can also click the link to see for yourself that it registered at 43x so I'm surprised you couldn't figure that out?

Then you asked about one core being 43x? You're incorrect. I don't set only one core 43x.





::iunlock::

 

I know all about this. I asked before your post http://forum.notebookreview.com/thr...nware-17-r4-15-r3.797378/page-5#post-10371158
Why do you think I asked?

 

more users confirmed it. The 1070 and 1080 are asking more of the cpu.

 

Maybe you should look in 3DM search. Compare physics scores from older Clevo models vs. never Clevo with Pascal. I can tell you, you don't find a noticeable difference Physics tests doesn't run with graphics.
Almost Zero load from graphics in 3DM physics test!!

 

OMG, apparently the 1.0.2 bios was reporting incorrect temp Oo...and the 1.0.6 seems to really fix the overheating, case closed soon ? Let's hope it's true.

read the comment (the answers of OWNORDISOWN to P.amador) on this youtube video :

 

First issue you face is that you can't get the 6820HK with the 120Hz panel. From what I understand the G-Sync panel requires a different motherboard because it needs to be connected directly to the GPU, where the other panels connect to integrated graphics to enable Optimus.

At the moment it seems like it's not the heatsink that's the problem, it's actually the thermal paste. Haven't had enough people repasting the 15 to confirm yet though.

Seems unlikely. If that were the case then why have people achieved much lower temps with repasting on the same BIOS? From what I gather the new BIOS fixes some issues with the fan settings, and possibly with the voltages, which explains the lower temps.

 

To be honest I cannot find a lot of data about this on laptops because there are so little laptops on the market with a Pascal GPU that could utilize an older 980gpu for example.

But the scenery is drawn by the GPU though.

 

I know your english is good enough to not get this confused in relaying what you are thinking into words. You wrote, "This physics score can't be done by 4.3 GHz. What clockspeed have you? 4.1 GHz on all cores? With 4.3 GHz on single core?"

Do you really think that I would set one core to 43x? Are you kidding me? That's why I was confused and asked why you would think such a thing... <- Exactly what I'm thinking...

 

Yup, I think all 45w/47w CPU's arrive at the same numbers, if they will reach that high.

35.5x continuous for 47w long term use.

If your cooling system can take more, and you can unlock the BIOS / CPU you can do more, but pushing much higher is going to take a cooling system re-vamp.

Thanks for bridging the threads with the response

 

@iunlock your gpu Vram chips are made by micron ? i hear that are bad for overclocking, you can ask if someone have another brand like samsung or hynix ? or the overclocking problem is just a myth ? for example the samsung Vram on my gtx 970m can be overclocked to +540mhz with no problem i think i can go far.. like +600mhz. how much can you overclock your Vram ? and other thing, you applied fujipoly thermal pads ? in my case i used Artic thermal pads 6W/mk very decent to me i made a little mod and put thermal pads above the Vrams on the other side of the boards and temperature of the gpu go down by 3 grades ( 2 thermal pads like a sandwich of 1,5mm each one )

 

Very nice. Lower temps are always good. Yea the memory chips are micron and they OC pretty well, but they seem a lot more stubborn than SKHynix or Samsung, which I would much rather have. I've been able to get pretty good OC out of the GPU upwards of +600 as well.

 

4.6GHz isn't completely stable yet, but it's getting there. It has taken almost 5 days so far to even get close to the clocks holding at 4.6GHz throughout the entire bench, but the 6820HK has finally managed to crack into the 4's, which is pretty impressive for what it is. Right now it's dipping just a bit into the 44x and 45x, but with a little more tuning it should get there.

The goal is to get this stable at 4.6GHz and I feel that it is very possible. 4.3Ghz is rock solid for a daily driver setting so far.

 

New Personal Record.


http://www.3dmark.com/fs/10588240

 

Here is the latest video regarding the bios update. It appears to increase the temps or at least report higher temps.