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    [Alienware 17R4 / 15R3] - Disassembly + Repaste Guide + Results

    Discussion in '2015+ Alienware 13 / 15 / 17' started by iunlock, Oct 22, 2016.

  1. Vasudev

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    Did you Overclock? What's your ambient temp and CPU temp?
     
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    Thanks Wiz bit. I would prefer to have Dell do it since it's brand new (I actually have not received it yet), but didn't realise they would be willing to. I'll first give that a try if I can watch and make sure he does a proper job of it.
     
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    No I didn't, both around 50 °C
     
  4. Vasudev

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    Then its damn good temps. High ambient temps around 50s and CPU/GPU temps <90C, impressive.
     
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    Who have 50C inside home?
     
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    A month ago, ambient was around 40-45C.
     
  7. kyussmanchu

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    Satan? :p
     
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    Probably a lot higher :D
    Not the same as have inside temp around 50s :rolleyes:
     
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    [​IMG]

    I see it.......but I don't f*cking believe it.
    20+ degrees downfall...with a CCI heatsink. (laptop was built 17 apr 2017...with a CCI HS...)
    EDIT: avg room temp 29C (Romania's hot AF)
    o_O
    [​IMG]

    these temps are F*CKING AMAZING!!!!
    CONDUCTONAUT FTW !!!!
     
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    so how about fan noise in the 15 r3? i have 2 missies in home (wifey and daughter) and i dont want to leave them deaf
     
  11. DarkthorZ

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    ok, seems it needs a period to cure a little.... 4 hrs of playerunknown and bf1 ultra...aaand....didnt pass 68....holy crap!

    [​IMG]


    IT'S...

     
  12. connor126

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    sweet action I am going to try this. dell is giving me the run around.
     
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    Hi Guys,

    Long time lurker, but new poster here.....wanted to make a post with my findings and also so THANK YOU to iunlock for the great guide. I've had my laptop for a few hours and did some initial tests to get baseline numbers, then went ahead and cracked it open!!

    Alienware 17 R4 - 7820hk with 1080

    Test Suite was as follows:
    15 minutes of Unigine Heaven
    5 minutes of Idle
    15 minutes of OCCT CPU Stress Test
    5 minutes of Idle
    15 minutes of Intel Extreme Tuning Utility CPU Stress Test
    5 minutes of Idle

    **NOTES: When referring to "Stock Voltage or Undervolting" all graphs refer to CPU voltage. I realize this doesn’t affect GPU temp much, but wanted to note it in the data as it had a little effect on the overall package/enclosure temp. Also, the interesting part is the GPU temp increase during the stress tests with the Conductonaut, which im guessing is just due to better thermal transfer since the CPU and GPU share the same assembly.

    Mods were:
    Fujipoly Pads
    Thermal Grizzly Conductonaut

    CPU Package Temperatures Before and After
    http://imgur.com/ZLmDwp3

    GPU Package Temperatures Before and After
    http://imgur.com/wVdTvFU

    Cant wait to start using this thing!! (and thanks again iunlock!!)

    Regards,
    Mike
     
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    Been lurking through this thread for a week or so. I decided to give an undervolt a try before getting my tools out.

    I bought my 17R4 last month from the Microsoft store; it's the 7820/1070/UHD build. Anyways, as a baseline my CPU package temps were in the upper 80s range, with peaks into the low-mid 90s while gaming. I threw on a -.120v* into the mix and I'm seeing temp drops of 12-18c. I just played Assetto Corsa for about an hour and peak temps were mid-upper 70s. I can live with this. As time goes on I know I'll want to overclock, when I decide to do so I'll definitely be repasting. For now though, I'm pleasantly surprised how effective a simple undervolt was.

    *used Intel Extreme Tuning Utility
     
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    Agreed. The first thing I did after base lining mine was undervolting and was shocked to see how much it helped!!! I know I will want to run 4.0ghz+ most of the time, so the paste made sense for sure!
     
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    I have a April manufactured device and my core values are pretty close together but do I need to repad? My device idles at 50-52c and originally I wanted to repaste with kryonaut though now I think I wanna go all the way with LM.

    Also what kind of glue are you guys using to glue the heat sink to the tape on the PCH
     
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    I myself purchased one as well that was manufactured in January 2017, with the modified stock paste and pads. Mine too idles around 40-50 depending on browsing and streaming. I'm not planning to repaste as my core values are pretty close together, give or take 3-5c at a given time. During gaming, BF1 for example, is stable and hits around 80-85C, but I will try first undervolting as I heard positive things, like a drop in temperature values between 5-10c average...
     
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    Can't hep with the repaste question, but like Oneshot noted below, give undervolting a try before you jump in and tear down your computer.

    For a fun experiment I downclocked my CPU (7820) from 3.6 to 3.4 and undervolted further to -0.150V. After 30 mins of gaming my temps never cracked 70C. There was also no noticeable impact to FPS so I might just let this be my default. For the first 5 minutes the fans barely event kicked in.
     
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    Yeah I am planning to do a full repaste anyway as I have experience in doing so and love to tear and put laptops/computers back together; but in all my life doing tech and working in tech, I never actually undervolted before; and doing research upon the subject; its been known to be the best way without breaking the components or damaging your laptop if your not confident or sure about doing so. I will try tonight after work and play some BF1 or Doom. Eventually my order for new thermal pastes, thermal pads and such comes this Weds so I will have a little project to do so afterwards :)
     
  20. ShotOfB12

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    low 50c idle is at my -.140 undervolt. I can go to -.145 which is stable with average load but crashes at OCCT after 30 mins. Doesn't really make much of a difference though. Whats weird is my cpu temps stay in the 70s and the highest I've seen my GPU is 72 on benchmarks. Nonetheless I ordered Grizzly liquid metal so I'm going for it.
     
  21. Oneshot2285

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    So with my 6700hq and doing some research on my exact model on what is the best range to undervolt, using IntelXtremeUtility: I have to say that undervolting is no joke and should be you go to for improving temps without repasting. My results were amazing in terms of change...Now using Aida64extreme and stress test for 15mins straight, my previous temps were high interms of revised dell stock thermal paste and resized padding...but with just undervolting to -150 just to start...the change is ridiculous...here is my pic. I am happy with these results.

    upload_2017-7-17_23-57-55.png
     
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    Getting a refirb with that great Dell sale going on 15 r3 1070 7820hk. What is the guide to repaste, I don't see that one in the top post.
     
  23. DarkthorZ

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    I think it's simple hotglue... nonconductive simple glue gun with hot glue.
    two dabs and you're set.

    my PCH heatsink was from a raspberry pi, and it came with adhesive on it. tho tbh i doubt it has ANY utility whatsoever.
     
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    I have these temps:

    upload_2017-7-20_11-32-47.png

    Just playing Dota 2 for 30 mins... what do u recommend me??? AW 17 R4 - GTX 1070
     
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    Definitely repaste and repad. BTW, what's your room temp?
     
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    22°C

    Sent from my LG-H870DS using Tapatalk
     
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    What date (month) you got the laptop?
     
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    I picked these up which are meant for the pi. I think I should be good with household super glue in that case.

    https://www.amazon.com/Mudder-Alumi...coding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=M35JHZ4GEG775SSEDZTN
     
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    I recommend repaste and repad, but try undervolting first to see what temps you would get as well. I did both a combination as I first undervolted mine and then repasted and repad two days later. My temps don't go past 70c while gaming for 2 hours or so on BF1.
     
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    does someone know someone in germany (pref. munich) who can help me with repaste/ changing pads (aw15r3 7700hq)

    best regards
     
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    Any reason other than price to go for the 11 w/mk over the 17 w/mk fujipoly?
     
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    11W/mk pads are little softer than 17 W/mK.
     
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    Is that a good or bad thing?
     
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    [​IMG]
    Good thing :cool:
     
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    Thx dudes.
     
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    Best result with 14Wkm, right? These results are with Kryonaut .... applies to LM Conductunaut too?
     
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    You has misunderstood, bruh.
    Grizzly Kryonaut thermal paste is replaced with different pads in the test setup. If you use Conductonaut or Kryonaut doesn't matter. Read the diagram in the pict a second time as it should be done. 14w /mk pads will come second after Kryonaut used as (thermal paste).
     
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    ok now I understand! thks @Papusan
     
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    Thank you very much for your guide on doing this. I have just ordered a 17R4 as a replacement for my 15 r3 that had heat issues. I think i am going to do this repasting as soon as i get it.

    I am having problems finding the Fujipoly thermal pads in my country (australia). How would you rate thermal grizzly pads?

    https://www.pccasegear.com/products...minus-pad-8-20x120x0-5mm-thermal-pad-two-pack

    Appreciate anyone who has used it giving their feedback. The laptop is $3500 if its worth paying $200 for better cooling i will order the fujipoly from amazon, but id prefer to get something local that will cost me 1/3 the price if the results are similar.
     
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    double post sorry delete.
     
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    Thermal grizzly makes the best TIMs. Same follows for the thermal pads. They are pretty good, and totally make sense in your case, since you are from Australia.

    For thermal pads , the thickness and softness matters more than their conductivity, as wrong thickness of thermal pads prevents the heat sink from sitting flush on the CPU and GPU die, making the thermal situation far worse.

    IMO go with the grizzly; I personally ordered 1 fujipoly 0.5mm strip (It cost like $15 in India)and rest Arctic silver 0.5mm and 1mm sheets (Very cheap)....for my new 15 R3.

    Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
     
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    Cool thanks for your feedback, has anyone used the thermal grizzly and found it to be ok?
     
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    @Aman Krishna: Arctic thermal pad 0.5mm is simply too steeply priced here, I checked amazon it was INR 2300 ($32) or something. Fujipoly costs $40 here. Did you buy it from the US whilst coming back?
     
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    Yep. I thermal grizzly'd mine, as i mentioned earlier, 0.5 + 1 .....as u saw the temps are unbelievably lower. plus the pads , after install, are soft,and get makrs on them easily,so the contact is great.
    i bought thermal grizzly, ironically,because i couldnt find fujipoly anywhere near me.
    i dont regret it.
    AT ALL.
     
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    Yeah Amazon is pretty overpriced. I got the fujipoly while coming back from the US. Artic was ordered from AliExpress and eBay.

    Sent from my Moto G (4) using Tapatalk
     
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    Yoo can get both :rolleyes: None said you have to buy less soft pads if you opt for higher rated conductivity thermal pads. And although the manufacturers produce one of the best thermal paste, this doesn't mean their other products is in line with this.
     
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